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07-05-2008, 02:20 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 43
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Going West
Need help going west. A few of us from Alabama are hopefully going west Aug. 30th and return Sept. 14th. Plan to make first overnight at C08 (Westcliffe, CO). Leave early next morning for LXV (Leadville, CO) while still cool. From there to various places of interest and then on to Catalina Island and up to Oregon and take northern route home. Would appreciate any input, advice, etc., regarding good food & fuel stops (I use AIRNAV), as well as overnight accommodations and routing through the mountains, RV friendly airports or anything else of interest. Might be best to email direct rather than use space on this site.
Thanks in advance.
Doug Preston
Birmingham, AL
RV-10 N372RV
dougpflyrv@gmail.com
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07-05-2008, 02:53 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Conyers GA
Posts: 347
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Density Altitude
Those high elevations and even moderate temps can get you density altitudes above 12000 feet. Load your 10 to gross and you will need to watch your p's and q's.
Lots of wonderful scenery though and lots of desolation from Grand Junction westword.
Gary
40274 RV10 Flying
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07-05-2008, 03:14 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,685
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Here are a few recommendations
If you land at this airport on the beach (paved runway, ramp and good facility. Ride the jet boats up the Rogue River where they stop for a wholesome family style dinner before returning down river to the seaside community. Eagles, otters and other wild life along the wilderness area. We stayed at Jot's Resort across the river from the airport and rode Jerry's Jet Boats a couple of times. The boats carry maybe 20 people maybe more.
Furnace Creek Inn at Death Valley, California. Sunday brunch is outstanding.
Harris Ranch, their own air strip, best steak in the west.
I love the Monterey Carmel area of California but the fires at Big Sur probably knock that out as an option.
Los Alamos, NM, very interesting place heart of the atom bomb development in WWII. Giant caldera west of town where an tremendous erruption occurred long ago - created the finger of land the contains the runway. Local museum is not to be missed. Many other natural attractions in the area and Santa Fe is not far off - another great place to visit. The National Laboratory is still very much in operation - they don't have tours and secruity is taken seriously.
The National Parks southern Utah - Zion, Bryce, Arches, Canyonlands and Capitol Reef are well worth visiting
Grand Canyon,Arizona
Munument Valley, Arizona
Canyon De Chelly, NM
Chacao Canyon, NM
Bob Axsom
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07-05-2008, 03:37 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sutter Creek, CA
Posts: 842
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My Humble Suggestions
Doug,
Sounds like a great adventure. I will just name a few places that I know of and have been to, out west.
First of all, I echo the sentiments of the previous poster who admonished you to be cautious at Leadville. This is likely the highest density altitude you will encounter, and your performance will likely be greatly reduced. Okay, now to better topics.
1. Custer, SD (KCUT) - (Mt. Rushmore, Crazy Horse memorial, and Custer State Park)The Airport manager is a great guy, and will assist you with what ever you need. Rental cars are available at reasonable prices. There are good motels in Custer, but I would advise that you stay in Keystone, as it is closer to Mt. Rushmore and you can have a cold frosty one and a great meal at the Ruby Rose!
2. Big Creek, ID (U60) - Great lodge with good food, hiking, fishing, etc The rates were about $80.00/night + meals and drinks. My bride and I just stayed there and I can email you some pics.
3. Johnson Creek, ID (3U2) - If you are camping, this is a great spot! They do have bunk houses available, but you will have to bring food with you or fly out McCall to get it.
4. Caldwell, ID (KEUL) - Reasonable fuel and DO NOT miss breakfast at the Airport Cafe! Ham & Eggs!! The slab of real "bone in" ham will cover the plate!
5. San Luis Obispo, CA (KSBP) - Nice little coastal town to walk around and enjoy great food. The night to be there is Thursday night! The Farmers Market takes over the main drag thru town, and the food is to die for. That is if you like vegies and fruit picked that day, and the best ribs that one can imagine. You can fly right up the coast from Catalina, and if the fog stays off shore it will be absolutely beautiful!
6. You can continue up the coast to Monterey and Half Moon Bay for some great food and a cozy accomodations. Monterey is a "don't miss" if you are a Steinbeck fan, and also offers great food hotels, and one of the best aquariums in the USA.
Anyway, you get the point! If you need more info send me a private email. If you do decide to fly around the back country of ID, order up the "Fly Idaho" guide to familiarize yourself with the back country before you go. The two airports that I named are totally RV-10 accessible, but you are in the mountains so due caution must be paid.
Good luck!
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RV-6 N506MM VAF #1410
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07-05-2008, 03:46 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TX32
Posts: 1,890
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Westward Ho...
I have made a couple of South East-West jaunts over the years in my RV4
(17) and 5 in my Rocket. A couple of my favorites stops would be:
4F2, Carthage Texas ($4.29 100LL last week) La Junta CO, (Cheap SS gas) Leadville CO (get the T-shirt) Parawan, Utah, great airport, beautiful scenery,(Cedar Breaks, Bryce Canyon close) Free Scout courtesy 4X4. Columbia, CA , Sedona, AZ, Cottage Grove, OR, Johnson Creek, ID, Smiley Creek, Sulphur Creek, ID(I could show you some better ones too, none paved  Also, Sheridan, WY Custer State Park, SD...to name a few...
Smokey
HR2
PS: If you have any doubts about your mountain flying capabilities, go to www.mountaincanyonflying.com, they can help.
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07-05-2008, 04:00 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sutter Creek, CA
Posts: 842
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Additional Information
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Originally Posted by Bob Axsom
Furnace Creek Inn at Death Valley, California. Sunday brunch is outstanding.
Harris Ranch, their own air strip, best steak in the west.
I love the Monterey Carmel area of California but the fires at Big Sur probably knock that out as an option.
The National Parks southern Utah - Zion, Bryce, Arches, Canyonlands and Capitol Reef are well worth visiting
Grand Canyon,Arizona
Munument Valley, Arizona
Canyon De Chelly, NM
Chacao Canyon, NM
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I just looked at the WX for KMRY (oops, sorry I mean Monterey) and the visibility and WX is fine. They are calling for some low stratus (i.e.: fog) but that is normal at this time of year.
Harris Ranch does indeed have (or had) one of the best steaks you will find. The last time that I was there I was not impressed with the service or the steak. However, even the best places have an "off" night. Sounds like Bob may have been there recently, so I will defer to him. Harris Ranch is is a very nice hotel, with a huge pool and nice gardens. I would make it a final stop in the late afternoon/early evening as there is not much else to do except watch the trucks roll down I-5! However, at the end of the day the nice hotel, a good swim while enjoying a cold libation of your choosing, followed by a good steak and a selection from their wine list will be throughly enjoyable!
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Mark Ohlau
RV-6 N506MM VAF #1410
2017 Donation Made
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07-05-2008, 07:49 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 5,685
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I have not been to Harris Rance since I retired in 2004
I have been to Harris ranch quite a few times and it was always outstanding but I retired and moved to northwest Arkansas in 2004 so things may have changed as they always do. We stayed in the hotel during the first few months it existed and it was so rich with fine quality throughout that I felt they had to be trying to establish it as a place to stay just for the hotel itself. There again things change but I'm glad you enjoyed it as well.
I am a John Stienbeck fan and have several of his wonderful books in my collection - including "Cannery Row" of course. It is impossible for me to go to Monterey and not feel a connection with the the characters and the past as he described it. If the group plans to go to Monterey I think reading the book would really set the mood for the visit.
Bob Axsom
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07-05-2008, 08:08 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,275
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Mountain flying
I may just have to show you a good time in the mountains Doug.
Get the Leadville certificate (I was there this morning).
Head towards Walsenberg CO then NW about 20 miles then NNW to Westcliff.
From there NNW to Salida (KANK) then Leadville.
Then south to ANK, west over Monarch Pass to go west or better yet is south to Del Norte, over Wolf Creek pass towards Pagosa Springs (PSO ?) then towards the Four Corners area. West to Monument Valley Utah which is a neat overnight/tour option (gouldingslodge.com)
Beaucoup neat national parks in Utah.
Fly over the Grand Canyon, land at the airport (free shuttle to the canyon).
Big Bear City airport in CA is pretty then over to Catalina Island). Hmm, I just did that a few months ago.
Here is that post:
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...ad.php?t=28308
Devils Tower in NE Wyoming.
Oxygen will be very useful. I fly at 16,500' going west. Some areas are very desolate. Consider getting at least one APRS system (get a ham license).
PS, my avitar is on the ramp at Leadville.
Last edited by Ron Lee : 07-05-2008 at 09:23 PM.
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07-05-2008, 08:20 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Delta, CO/Atlin, BC
Posts: 2,389
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Leadville Certificate?
I didn't ever get a certificate there! But I did meet my (future) wife at the airport where we were both working toward our PPL (almost 30 years ago now). Density altitude is indeed a big issue - I had a partner who overloaded our 172 and killed himself plus injured his passengers (yes, more than one in the 172 at that altitude is foolish) on takeoff.
Lots of good mountain flying around there.
cheers,
greg
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RV-9B (Big tires) Tipup @AJZ or CYSQ
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07-05-2008, 08:23 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 917
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Jeesh, the thread title scared me for a minute. Thought you might be headed to Hospice or something . . . 
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Mike C.
Sierra Nevada
RV-6A bought flying
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