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04-12-2005, 10:08 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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While Deltahawk would have been my first choice for a jet-a fueled engine, it appears they are struggling with some final hurdles before actual production.
I was just on thielert's Centurion site and they have the 1.7 certificated and currently available. The weight looks great, the HP (135) is probably perfect for the 9-a but the price at 25,000 euros is a bit much.
Another plus might be only a 25 hour flyoff time...
-Mike
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Resuming building after a 4ish year hiatus! (life got in the way)
N194MW (reserved) RV9A SB
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04-14-2005, 03:54 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Central California
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Originally Posted by mlw450802
While Deltahawk would have been my first choice for a jet-a fueled engine, it appears they are struggling with some final hurdles before actual production.
I was just on thielert's Centurion site and they have the 1.7 certificated and currently available. The weight looks great, the HP (135) is probably perfect for the 9-a but the price at 25,000 euros is a bit much.
Another plus might be only a 25 hour flyoff time...
-Mike
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Note also Mike, There is no TBO for the Thielert engine. They are a run-out and replace engine right now!
Bill Jepson
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04-15-2005, 04:21 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Incase anyone is interested, I e-mailed deltahawk asking about their progress.
Here is their response.
"The DeltaHawk engine is in production with the first non certified 160HP engines available by May 2005, this first batch have all been sold.
The 200HP will be available by October 2005, however all production until December 2005 has been allocated to buyers.
Currently you will need to allow up to 6 months between a signed purchase agreement and the availability of the production engine.
We hope that within the next 12mths that the engine will obtain it's FAA certification."
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04-16-2005, 03:13 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Finally!
Some published news on their website. It doesn't look too bad either.
-Mike
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Michael L Wilson
Resuming building after a 4ish year hiatus! (life got in the way)
N194MW (reserved) RV9A SB
VAF# 148
Payson, AZ
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04-30-2005, 06:54 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Good Alternative Engines
Please see the Traditional vs. Alternative Powerplants section.
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05-12-2005, 06:36 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Broomfield, CO
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DeltaHawk posts some great news.
They updated their webiste with some great fuel economy news. I think this engine is going places, albeit sloooowly!!
Checkout company website: www.deltahawkengines.com
Tobin
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05-12-2005, 07:05 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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very promising
Very promissing with the high price of gas these days! I hope they fix the engine mount points so that it can be mounted in an RV easier...especially the -A versions. I might just be able to use one of these by the time I am ready for the engine. Guess I can order the finishing kit without the cowling and nose gear etc.
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05-19-2005, 06:14 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Chesterfield, Missouri
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Originally Posted by mlw450802
I would like to start a thread on this engine. I am looking for any substantive inside info on their situation. I have studied the website religiously but still am not completely comfortable with the promises.
I do believe they are real with respect to the piston ported diesel but I am worried relative to the aircraft application.
The Thielert seems to have it's ducks lined up a little better but the Deltahawk is very attractive to me due to its simplicity.
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I have been interested in a diesel engine for over 25 years starting with Zoch. The experience has been like a carrot on a stick. They show up at the air shows each year, talk to lots of people but where are airplanes with a diesel engine? Four years ago, Delta Hawk representatives stated there would be a fire wall forward kit for the RV. But it has not appeared yet.
If you guys want to fly in this century, don't count on it with a diesel. As great as the concept is, it may never be more than talk. It is a mystery as to why it is so difficult to get these engines in an airplane and flying.
dd
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Subaru H6
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05-19-2005, 09:01 AM
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I think you're wrong on this one David. DH is making real progress. It has been very slow, but things are coming together, they have been doing real testing and getting real results. Several of their engines are being tested at this time including one in a helicopter. Zoch's problems are irrelevent. You have three companies currently flying diesels, SMA, Thielert, and Wilksch.
"If you guys want to fly this century, don't count on it with a diesel" That's a pretty bold statement considering there are 95 years left in this century.
Tobin
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05-19-2005, 11:29 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Central California
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Originally Posted by tobinbasford
I think you're wrong on this one David. DH is making real progress. It has been very slow, but things are coming together, they have been doing real testing and getting real results. Several of their engines are being tested at this time including one in a helicopter. Zoch's problems are irrelevent. You have three companies currently flying diesels, SMA, Thielert, and Wilksch.
"If you guys want to fly this century, don't count on it with a diesel" That's a pretty bold statement considering there are 95 years left in this century.
Tobin
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Doubly wrong in fact,
The Deltahawk is FLYING now in a velocity. They are installing several other apps NOW including the inverted version, (the most universally useable package) They are starting production NOW. I don't think people who haven't created a project on their own can understand how hard it can be to establiish an infastructure for manufacturing a complex machined/cast/assembled product. Wiltich (sic) is flying now. Started production. Zoche is a wildcard I not sure that they will ever release anything! A very weird guy.
I'd love to bet the farm that a good diesel package will be available this century!
RotaryRV-10
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