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grantcarruthers · #1 06-10-2008, 10:06 AM

Well I have yet to find a source of ETOH free premium so I am looking at the next best option I can think of. I called the nearest field, KGRE, that has premium mogas and explained my situation. They were kind enough to provide their suppliers info. He in turn is more than happy to make home deliveries but he is far enough away that he would like me to have a 500 gallon tank to make the trip worth while. Waiting for quotes on the tank right now. Living on 6 acres in the country will allow for this, at least

Depending on the expense of the tank I may break even on the 1st 500 gallons as I was quoted 4.22 on the 93 octane and 100ll is now 6.30 on my home field. This about par to 5-10 cents cheaper for the local going rate. So not saving much against local premium but since it's ETOH free it's the only option I can come up with.

Other benefits, 2 of my 4 motorcycles require premium so they can fuel from it too and get better mileage due to the absence of the ETOH (not a huge difference but noticable). Might even run the car on it too as the .25 cents over local regular price will come close to par on price after the mileage improvement (just a break even really).

Just posting this up as our states and soon fed move to require ETOH in our gas station fuel, this may become an option more of you mogasers want to consider. If the supplier happened to be closer I could quite cheaply get a 250 gallon tank which are quite common on farms around here. Heck, for that matter you could likely get 100LL if that's your flavor although I don't know what kind of savings you would see there or how supportive of your local FBO you care to be (might be harder to get due to environment concerns). I for one have a plane which runs better without the lead (so far, high temp summer tests continue for vapor lock issue and as CHT's rise with ambient).

Safety, quality of storage, and transport to the airport are issues to be considered but I just wanted to let those of you interrested know that wholesale fuel delivery is an option.

Mike S · #2 06-10-2008, 10:15 AM

Farm fuel ------------ there are tax breaks for farm fuel that you may want to look into.

Just dont use it for on road vehicles.

At least that is how things are here on the left coast, but I think it is a federal thing.

jmartinez443 · #3 06-10-2008, 10:43 AM

I've read somewhere that MOGAS (probably other fuels as well) has a shelf life of about 30 days. You may want to consider that in your purchase decision.

BigSky · #4 06-10-2008, 11:00 AM

Definately check out the shelf life, but if it is in a tank, I doubt it will have a shelf life problem. Maybe if it were in a gas can. I know several guys that have their own tank. They filled it up when gas was cheap. and because they are the only ones flying off it, it takes them a while to burn off 500 gallons. They all seemed happy with the situation.

Mike S · #5 06-10-2008, 11:02 AM

A more common problem would be condensation inside the tank.

Be sure you have a water trap in the dispensing line.

grantcarruthers · #6 06-10-2008, 12:06 PM

The price quote leads me to believe that auto taxes we're included in the price but I agree I need to check. I need to ask what the price is without road taxes vs aviation taxes if it's an option.

Water traps are part of the plan of course but good to mention for those not aware of the need.

dpansier · #7 06-10-2008, 02:55 PM

The boating people use a system like this.

http://www.jamestowndistributors.com...paign=week2408

N941WR · #8 06-10-2008, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmartinez443

I've read somewhere that MOGAS (probably other fuels as well) has a shelf life of about 30 days. You may want to consider that in your purchase decision.

Either the EAA or AOPA had an article on the shelf life of fuel some time back.

If I remember correctly, 100LL was good for two years and regular MOGAS was good for one year. Ever since I heard that I stopped "winterizing" my toys, mowers, etc. and have not had any problem come spring.

MiFlyer · #9 06-10-2008, 07:16 PM

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grantcarruthers · #10 06-10-2008, 07:33 PM

Nice tips, thanks. The boaters fuel caddy is a bit pricey but looks like a nice product. I don't know that the portability would be a big asset though and will more than likely go with a smaller transfer tank like set up. Honestly the amounts I'll likely transfer (10-20 gallons at a time) would not be hard to do with basic gas cans and a funnel. I don't want to cart around a transfer tank all the time but we'll see (fuel and vapor sloshing around doesn't sound too ideal and I wouldn't be able to get the motorcycles loaded for the track with a transfer tank mounted as it should be). I have some new uncontaminated/dedicated 5 gallon cans that I'll start with if this takes off. If it seems time/effort efficient enough I'll stick with that. If it's a pain I'll look into something more $$sophisticated$$ later (maybe that boaters caddy isn't such a bad idea). Sounds like a pain to many people but waiting for the fuel truck or taxiing to the pumps and dealing with the card reader takes just as much time as pouring 2-4 cans of gas will (I think??

). Time will tell.