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Old 04-02-2008, 04:13 PM
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Default RV-9 rear wing spar damage - how to fix?

While bucking the rear wing spar and top skin, the bucking bar struck the rear spar at an angle. The impact created a "V" shaped notch which nearly cut through the rear spar .

Can this be fixed using a doubler plate?

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Old 04-02-2008, 04:31 PM
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Old 04-02-2008, 04:39 PM
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don't worry - I did something much more stupid and had much worse damage

I talked to Vans, make a cool doubler angle (not a plate), and now it is fixed, stronger than original, and impossible to detect!

Good Luck!
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Old 04-02-2008, 04:54 PM
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Looks like it's in the flange not the web. I'd just build on but include a peek at it in the annual inspection.
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:11 PM
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Default Best to check w Vans

Thinair - -

Although the advice you get here is excellent, this is a situation best remedied with an e-mail to Vans.

A while back, I managed to put a teensy split in a VS spar flange dimple hole. I was worried that I might have to order a do-over HS spar (which already had a few dozen rivets in place). I sent an e-mail to Van's and their solution was pretty simple... I put in a doubler using tank sealant and a blind rivet.

Don't go by what they told me, your situation is different, and there is no such thing as an unimportant spar.

Good luck resolving the spar cracks.
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Old 04-02-2008, 11:25 PM
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Exclamation Integrity of the spar....

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Looks like it's in the flange not the web. I'd just build on but include a peek at it in the annual inspection.
The flange and the web together make up the equivalent of a sort of "I" beam.

The flange is just as important, if not more important, structurally as the web. The center of the web has little load on it, and is often cut away with lightening holes.

The flange is seriously compromised and not fulfilling it's design... definitely call Vans on this one. A doubler angle will probably be the correct solution.

When structural elements are compromised, "build on" is not the correct answer....

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Old 04-03-2008, 04:28 AM
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How close to the wing tip is this damage? The loads on the spar flange are highest near the wing root, and they decrease towards the wing tip.

The advice to talk to Van's is spot on. Their engineers know what strength is required, and can do the analysis to design an adequate repair. Everyone here is just guessing.
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Old 04-03-2008, 06:51 AM
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How close to the wing tip is this damage? The loads on the spar flange are highest near the wing root, and they decrease towards the wing tip.

The advice to talk to Van's is spot on. Their engineers know what strength is required, and can do the analysis to design an adequate repair. Everyone here is just guessing.
I agree I would call vans for a fix everyone here is just guessing
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:38 AM
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Default Spar damage

Thank you to all that have replied. I have contacted Vans and am waiting for an answer.

The damage is about 5 feet from the inboard end of the spar.
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Let us know what Van's says, I am interested to know.
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