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03-29-2008, 06:30 PM
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Brake pads for an early -6?
Louise is planning to order some parts for her annual, and asked me if I had the part number for th brake pads. I almost responded with the same part number as I have on the -78, but then I began wondering....is it the same part 18 years later? I was surprised that the 08 used a three-rivet pad, rather than the old two-rivet I had on the Grumman....
Since the alternative is having her remove her wheel pants to find out, does anyone know the brake pad used on the early -6's?
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03-29-2008, 08:14 PM
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Cleveland 66-106, Rapco RA66-106.
I always buy Rapco kit RA66-106-4K (4 pads) or RA66-106-8K (8 pads). You save a little money on the kits and they will keep.
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03-29-2008, 10:01 PM
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Thanks Mel - I generally buy the kits - then I have the right number of rivets (assuming I don't drop one or two....)
Paul
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03-30-2008, 07:28 AM
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Rapco vs ??
Sort of related...
The first two sets of pads I had were from Vans, not sure which brand they were. The current set are Rapco, and they squeak. Never had that before, but have it all the time now when very lightly applying the brakes during slow movement. I'd have to switch back to know for sure.
Anyone else run into this?
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03-30-2008, 08:05 AM
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I did not have the rivet tool so I took mine pads along with the plates to a local brake & clutch shops to have them replace the pads. They suggested I allow them to "glue" the pads in addition to the rivits. I'm not sure what epoxy they used. Maybe a little JB weld and rivets? It may make the next brake job tough though.
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03-30-2008, 09:02 AM
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I've been running Rapco forever. Never had a problem. No noise.
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03-30-2008, 12:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geico266
I did not have the rivet tool so I took mine pads along with the plates to a local brake & clutch shops to have them replace the pads. They suggested I allow them to "glue" the pads in addition to the rivits. I'm not sure what epoxy they used. Maybe a little JB weld and rivets? It may make the next brake job tough though.
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Wow! Never heard of gluing them on before....but if you have a rivet squeezer, you can buy a set of dies that set PERFECT brake pad rivets from Avery - one of life's nice little luxuries (they cost less that $20).
I have been flying Rapcos for quite awhile as well, and never heard any noise Alex.
Paul
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03-30-2008, 01:13 PM
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Go to Pep Boys and buy some orange anti squeal stuff. It is like rubber glue but is very easy to remove.
Put a little bit of that on prior to riveting the pads in place and I suspect (but don't know) that will stop the squealing.
On many cars they have an anti-squeal plate that goes between the back of the pad and the piston just to dampen this noise.
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03-30-2008, 03:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N941WR
Go to Pep Boys and buy some orange anti squeal stuff. It is like rubber glue but is very easy to remove.
Put a little bit of that on prior to riveting the pads in place and I suspect (but don't know) that will stop the squealing.
On many cars they have an anti-squeal plate that goes between the back of the pad and the piston just to dampen this noise.
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Please do not do this!
The anti squeal compounds are meant to go between the steel brake pad backing plate and the steel part it is in contact with (such as the caliper piston)
Brake pads for cars come with the pad material already bonded to the backing plate.
The anti squeal compound is not intended to go between the pad material and the backing plate.
Squealing brakes after replacing pads is more likely related to the brake in relationship of the new pads to the partially worn disk, than it is to the brand of pads that you installed.
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