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03-20-2008, 11:32 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Coshocton, Ohio
Posts: 315
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Jeppesen to end updates for older IFR GPS receivers
For those buying, be careful.
For those selling, HURRY, HURRY, HURRY
Full story here:
http://www.aopa.org/flightplanning/a...8jeppesen.html
NorthStar- M3/M3 Approach
- M2/M2V/Heli M-2V
- GPS 60/GPS 600 Navigators
Trimble- TNL 2000/2100/3000/3100
- TNL 2000T/2100T/3000T/3100T
- TNL 1000DC
- TNL Approach 2000/2100/2101 IO
- TNL 8100 (support offered by Honeywell beginning April 10, 2009)
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Dave Durakovich
CFIG, AGI, COMM SEL, VAF# 133
RV-4, N666PR, Finished (Well, at least flying)!
RV-6 - Adopted an orphan!
Detroit, MI
"If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right."
Henry Ford
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03-21-2008, 07:45 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Alviso, CA
Posts: 405
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Database available to the public
Check this link:
http://avn.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=nac...ts/digital/nfd
Cost under $200 year
Some crunching is apparently required and one would have to wrestle the data format away from Jepeson.
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Steve Brown
N598SD - RV9A second owner
O-320, 9:1 pistons, Catto 3 blade
KRHV - Reid Hillview airport, San Jose, CA
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03-21-2008, 07:48 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Alviso, CA
Posts: 405
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But wait, there's more...
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Steve Brown
N598SD - RV9A second owner
O-320, 9:1 pistons, Catto 3 blade
KRHV - Reid Hillview airport, San Jose, CA
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03-21-2008, 12:56 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 1,231
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Where's a good hacker when you need one?
I would have thought some enterprising individual would have figured out some macros to generate the Garmin datasets by now!
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03-22-2008, 10:10 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Alviso, CA
Posts: 405
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Jeppesen lying?
"The company says it is no longer feasible to continue to trim database information to fit into the 1MB and 2MB Flash Card memory format used by many of these systems.........Up to this point, Jeppesen has trimmed value-added data from the database and offered reduced coverage areas to shrink the amount of data to match the memory capacity of the units. But, the company says, it is becoming too difficult and expensive to continue to trim the ever-increasing amount of data.
While the units will continue to function without updated database information, it will no longer be legal to use them for IFR operations. ......."
I'm not believing the above snip from the AOPA article. Jeppesen is trying to paint a picture in our minds of some guy working day and night, trimming individual entries. That's not the way it's done!
Making one data base from another, when the second is a subset of the data on the first, is no big deal. That's the kind of stuff you can do with an Excel marco if necessary.
Jeppesen has a monopoly in terms of providing data bases for these units. They enjoy a special relationship with Garmin (for example). When Jeppesen pulls the plug, it forces buyers back in the market for new GPS units.
On top of that, the data they use is public domain. I think there is cause for legal action to force Garmin to reveal any information necessary to allow programing these units after Jeppesen drops it.
Also, it doesn't matter where the data comes from. If you update the data base the unit will still be legal for IFR.
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Steve Brown
N598SD - RV9A second owner
O-320, 9:1 pistons, Catto 3 blade
KRHV - Reid Hillview airport, San Jose, CA
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