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Old 02-10-2008, 01:55 PM
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Default Bending Fuel tank attach bracket

Hey all-

Got the wing mounted on right side and trying to fit the fuel tank attach bracket. I understand the need to bend the flange of the bracket a little but I have tried EVERYTHING and cannot get the thick aluminum angle metal to bend even a little! Would appreciate any thoughts. How did you all bend that thick aluminum angle? I have tried in a vice and wacking it in many different ways without any success.

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Old 02-10-2008, 02:03 PM
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Default Bend before cutting!

The trick is to bend it before you cut it. The full size angle is much easier bent.
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Old 02-10-2008, 11:17 PM
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Get a bigger hammer or a bigger vice, or both!

I've whacked (I mean gently bent) a number of them.....

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Old 02-11-2008, 05:35 AM
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Default Thick Aluminum?

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Hey all-

Got the wing mounted on right side and trying to fit the fuel tank attach bracket. I understand the need to bend the flange of the bracket a little but I have tried EVERYTHING and cannot get the thick aluminum angle metal to bend even a little! Would appreciate any thoughts. How did you all bend that thick aluminum angle? I have tried in a vice and wacking it in many different ways without any success.

As always, thanks for your help!

Peter K
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Peter,
The thick aluminum angle is attached to the tank.
I don't think you'll bend it without deforming the tank.

The fuselage has a bracket made of steel, which is thinnner but strong too.

I'm not to that point yet, but I intend to bend the steel bracket to mate up with the thick aluminum bracket on the tank.

This may involve removing the steel bracket from the fuselage and using a vise and big hammer.

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Old 02-11-2008, 06:47 AM
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Peter,
The thick aluminum angle is attached to the tank.
I don't think you'll bend it without deforming the tank.
....Mark
Mark, the RV-7 has steel tank brackets on the fuse. For the RV-9, you need to make your own out of thick aluminum angle, and give it a few degrees bend. Don't know why the steel bracked was not chosen for the RV-9 as well.

Peter, I precut my angle, and bent it on a vise, holding the shorter end in the vise. Then whacked it with a rubber mallet, and measured the angle after a couple of whacks. Like someone said earlier, you may need a bigger hammer or bigger vise.
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Old 02-11-2008, 08:18 AM
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Mark, the RV-7 has steel tank brackets on the fuse. For the RV-9, you need to make your own out of thick aluminum angle, and give it a few degrees bend. Don't know why the steel bracked was not chosen for the RV-9 as well.
Oh, I assumed they were the same.

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Old 02-11-2008, 02:32 PM
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I have tried all that and have gotten no results. I believe I will find someone who has a bending brake and see if that will work. Thanks for your responses.

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Old 02-11-2008, 02:44 PM
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Put both edges of the angle in the vise with the vertex pointed up. Tighten down on the the vise to pull the edges closer to each other. Every few turns pull the angle out to measure it against the fuse and tank bracket. Worked for me.
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Old 02-11-2008, 05:57 PM
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Default Beat the heck out of it

Here is a picture of how I bent mine. I had to beat the heck out of it the get it to bend, but I didn't bend them until fitting it in place. Bang it, trial fit, bang some more, etc, until you get a nice fit against the fuse.

Angle in the vice set up, ready to beat it:
http://www.aclog.com/rv-9a/images/Fu...5_DSC_0100.JPG

Nice fit against the fuse:
http://www.aclog.com/rv-9a/images/Fu...5_DSC_0102.JPG

My journal entry about this:
http://www.aclog.com/rv-9a/index.php?c=3#862

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Old 02-11-2008, 09:29 PM
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I have tried all that and have gotten no results. I believe I will find someone who has a bending brake and see if that will work. Thanks for your responses.

Peter K
9A QB
No-No don't do that!!! We have a pretty good sized finger brake, but putting that short of a piece of that thich aluminum in the brake will likely "break" the brake (or deform it). I'd kill someone if they tried to do that on my brake, and it's rated for .100!

One might not notice it, but putting small pieces of material rated for much thicker than the brake can bend/twist/warp parts of the brake and should be avoided entirely.

The vice/hammer method has worked for decades on these things...just get good and mad at the darned thign - don't be gentle! Not often you really get to hit something hard on these kits!

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