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01-18-2005, 06:11 AM
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Location: Hangar/home at Hicks Airfield (T67), Fort Worth, TX
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Re: Flying Tunes
I use a Creative Labs Nomad Zen Jukebox. It stores MP3 format or WMA formatted songs that you transfer using the supplied software for your computer.
No CD's to pack in your flightbag or glovebox. It plugs in to my stereo mini-jack and provides endless music thru the intercom.
I have 1,439 songs currently and have only used 5 gigs of the available 30 gig harddrive.
Mike Reddick
RV6A N167CW
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01-18-2005, 07:35 AM
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Location: Arlington, TX (DFW)
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You can also go to Walmart.com for music downloads. Only 88-cents each, but not nearly the selection you have at some of the bigger sites.
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Gary Robertson
Arlington, TX
RV-12 Built / Sold / Flying
Currently Flying: Cessna Skyhawk 172
Rebuilding a true barn find J-3 Cub
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01-18-2005, 01:39 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Auburn, WA
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Song Pilot
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Originally Posted by warren hurd
Where is the best place to find flying tunes? Songs about flying etc.
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Well, you can find songs that mention flying, but for a cool CD with songs that are all about flying I have found none better than:
Dwyane O'Brien's - Song Pilot

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Covington WA
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01-22-2005, 08:16 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Brighton, Colorado
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I'll second the recommendation for Dwayne O'Brien's Song Pilot CD.
As to the mechanics of MP3's and all that, it seems that a little more explanation is in order for some of our members.
First, MP3 and WMA are just different flavors of compression formats. As a rough guideline, converting the tunes from a regular CD format to MP3 or WMA will reduce the file sizes by a factor of 10. That's why people say you can get 10x as many songs on a CD filled with songs that have been converted to MP3.
A free lunch? Well, not quite. Purists will remind us that you will actually lose a little bit of audio quality in the conversion process. Unless you're a fairly critical listener, I doubt you'll notice the loss. Heck, a bunch of my RVer friends have a hard enough time haring their digital watches and telephones going off. They'd have a hard time distinguishing a CD recording from an old album!
OK, now we're on to players. Two basic types: (1) Fixed storage and (2) Hard drive storage. Most all of these players will play all the different compression formats (WMA, MP3, etc.). The difference is whether or not they have a memory chip or an actual moving hard drive. As a general guide for this moment in time, if the device you're looking at has more than 1 gig of storage capability, then it's got a moving hard drive.
The hard drive players are generally about the size of a pack of cigarettes (plus or minus a little in each dimension). The memory chip players can be really small. The upside to the hard drive players is that hard drive storage is cheaper per Gig of storage than the memory card players.
When people talk about playing tunes on their iPaq, they are saving MP3's to a memory card and then inserting that memory card in their iPaq. I've got an iPaq and can tell you this works quite well.
I've also got a 20Gig hard drive player made by Creative Labs--the same company who makes sound cards for computers. It was a lower cost option to Apple's iPod... about half the price to be more precise.
iRiver makes a memory chip type device that holds 512Mb of songs. It sells for around $150. A 20-30 Gig Creative Labs hard drive player can be had for around $250-300. One "Gig" is equal to about 1000 "Megs".
The other detail that is sometimes lost on those new to the whole portable music scene is the process of converting regular CDs to MP3 or WMA format. This is called "ripping" a CD. The latest Windows Media Player software that comes with this capability already built in. You just insert a regular audio CD into your CD-ROM bay and then click on "rip." Also, any player you buy will probably also come with its own ripping software.
I own about 200 CDs and have my entire collection stored on my computer hard drive and my Creative Labs player. I can't tell you how handy it is to have every CD I own stored on something I can carry in my back pocket. I plug it into my stereo in my truck, at home, and at my hangar. I take it along with me when I travel and also use it as a Walkman when I run.
My RV-8 will definitely have an 1/8" stereo port for an MP3 player as will my Midget Mustang when I finish its restoration.
I know this is long and it's pretty basic for those who are familiar, but I think sometimes some of us techies talk over the heads of some of our less techno-savvy friends.
Best regards,
RW
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01-23-2005, 10:22 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Columbia, SC
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A most considerate post.
James
... multiple computers, PDA's and players ... just "ripped" over 100 CD's, but still appreciative of someone taking the time for the good of all.
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Originally Posted by RWoodard
I'll second the recommendation for Dwayne O'Brien's Song Pilot CD.
As to the mechanics of MP3's and all that, it seems that a little more explanation is in order for some of our members.
First, MP3 and WMA are just different flavors of compression formats. As a rough guideline, converting the tunes from a regular CD format to MP3 or WMA will reduce the file sizes by a factor of 10. That's why people say you can get 10x as many songs on a CD filled with songs that have been converted to MP3.
A free lunch? Well, not quite. Purists will remind us that you will actually lose a little bit of audio quality in the conversion process. Unless you're a fairly critical listener, I doubt you'll notice the loss. Heck, a bunch of my RVer friends have a hard enough time haring their digital watches and telephones going off. They'd have a hard time distinguishing a CD recording from an old album!
OK, now we're on to players. Two basic types: (1) Fixed storage and (2) Hard drive storage. Most all of these players will play all the different compression formats (WMA, MP3, etc.). The difference is whether or not they have a memory chip or an actual moving hard drive. As a general guide for this moment in time, if the device you're looking at has more than 1 gig of storage capability, then it's got a moving hard drive.
The hard drive players are generally about the size of a pack of cigarettes (plus or minus a little in each dimension). The memory chip players can be really small. The upside to the hard drive players is that hard drive storage is cheaper per Gig of storage than the memory card players.
When people talk about playing tunes on their iPaq, they are saving MP3's to a memory card and then inserting that memory card in their iPaq. I've got an iPaq and can tell you this works quite well.
I've also got a 20Gig hard drive player made by Creative Labs--the same company who makes sound cards for computers. It was a lower cost option to Apple's iPod... about half the price to be more precise.
iRiver makes a memory chip type device that holds 512Mb of songs. It sells for around $150. A 20-30 Gig Creative Labs hard drive player can be had for around $250-300. One "Gig" is equal to about 1000 "Megs".
The other detail that is sometimes lost on those new to the whole portable music scene is the process of converting regular CDs to MP3 or WMA format. This is called "ripping" a CD. The latest Windows Media Player software that comes with this capability already built in. You just insert a regular audio CD into your CD-ROM bay and then click on "rip." Also, any player you buy will probably also come with its own ripping software.
I own about 200 CDs and have my entire collection stored on my computer hard drive and my Creative Labs player. I can't tell you how handy it is to have every CD I own stored on something I can carry in my back pocket. I plug it into my stereo in my truck, at home, and at my hangar. I take it along with me when I travel and also use it as a Walkman when I run.
My RV-8 will definitely have an 1/8" stereo port for an MP3 player as will my Midget Mustang when I finish its restoration.
I know this is long and it's pretty basic for those who are familiar, but I think sometimes some of us techies talk over the heads of some of our less techno-savvy friends.
Best regards,
RW
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02-17-2005, 09:11 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
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Tunes to fly by...
I would have to agree with all the previous posts as to good flying music, but if you've had a severe week, and you are trying to chill out with a nice cross-country...you can't beat Enya...any album...great for easy aerobatics. Try it, you'll like it!
Jeff
RV4 Toucan
P.S. To RWoodard...yeah, like you'll ever finish the Midget Mustang...(heh-heh)
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02-19-2005, 07:11 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: California's vast Central Valley
Posts: 571
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Originally Posted by jhallrv4
I would have to agree with all the previous posts as to good flying music, but if you've had a severe week, and you are trying to chill out with a nice cross-country...you can't beat Enya...any album...great for easy aerobatics. Try it, you'll like it!
Jeff
RV4 Toucan
P.S. To RWoodard...yeah, like you'll ever finish the Midget Mustang...(heh-heh)
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Oh man, the drone of my engine and Enya? I'd be asleep in no time. I actually like Enya and Celtic music in general but her gentle tones just knock me out every time. 
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