Music Input

RV8TOR · #1 02-05-2008, 09:45 AM

Just wondering if anyone had a better recommendation about music inputs. I am planning on using the 1/8" stereo plug jack going into the PS-3000 for my ipod input.

Thanks,

f1rocket · #2 02-05-2008, 11:00 AM

This won't work without a pre-amp, at least I couldn't get it to work on my PM3000. I even sent my unit back to the factory for an upgrade that was supposed to allow it but that didn't work either. The audio technical folks will chime in but the power output from the iPod is pretty low and won't drive your headsets with much volume.

I know this isn't the most cost effective way to solve this, but I bought new headsets that have a music input jack at the battery box. I use a splitter to drive both front and back headsets and the music is very loud.

If I had it to do over again, I'd get an audio panel with a built in amplifier. If you have to pre-amp the signal anyway, might as well get the benefit of an audio panel.

mrreddick · #3 02-05-2008, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RV8TOR

Just wondering if anyone had a better recommendation about music inputs. I am planning on using the 1/8" stereo plug jack going into the PS-3000 for my ipod input.

Thanks,

Charlie,

I have a stereo input to my Garmin audio panel. I don't know how it would differ from a stand-alone intercom but the mp3 player sounds great through it. I checked the wiring diagram supplied by the company who wired my panel and I don't see it going thru any form of pre-amp.

frankh · #4 02-05-2008, 11:42 AM

Does the PS 6000 have the required pre-amp gain to allow me to run the Ipod through it?

I have not tried it yet.

I guess it wouldn't be that hard to build a pre-amp between the Ipod and the music input if needs be?

Thanks

Frank

f1rocket · #5 02-05-2008, 04:13 PM

Nearly all new audio panels now come with a built-in pre-amp in the music circuit just for MP/3 and iPod players.

robjohnson · #6 02-05-2008, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankh

Does the PS 6000 have the required pre-amp gain to allow me to run the Ipod through it?

I have not tried it yet.

I guess it wouldn't be that hard to build a pre-amp between the Ipod and the music input if needs be?

Thanks

Frank

I have a PS 6000 with no pre-amp between the iPod and input, and it works great! It was really quiet for some reason when I used a stereo to mono plug, but when i removed it, it works great. Maybe the iPod is intelligent enough to know if it should be in stereo vs. mono. I get great sounds through the PS 6000 and all of my stuff is wired up for mono.

Caveman · #7 02-05-2008, 05:55 PM

I have a PSE PM3000 with an entertainment jack. I tried the wife's I-Pod in it the other day and it worked fine. I purchased mine last summer at OSH if that makes a difference.

frankh · #8 02-05-2008, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robjohnson

I have a PS 6000 with no pre-amp between the iPod and input, and it works great! It was really quiet for some reason when I used a stereo to mono plug, but when i removed it, it works great. Maybe the iPod is intelligent enough to know if it should be in stereo vs. mono. I get great sounds through the PS 6000 and all of my stuff is wired up for mono.

Cool...Turns out I have a Ps 7000....Haven't tried the IPOD...I can't seem to get the cell phone to work...I hear the cell phone in my headset but can't seem to "transmit".

Any ideas?

Frank

robjohnson · #9 02-06-2008, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 647jc

Really shouldn't use a mono-to-stereo plug in a stereo-to-mono mode. You end up shorting the two stereo output signals together and could damage the device, probably why the audio output was so low. If you must drive a mono system with a stereo source and don't have a mixer device/circuit, use only one of the stereo channel outputs, I think maybe the left channel may be recommended but not sure.

I didn't use a mono-to-stereo plug -- I used a stereo-to-mono plug. Big difference.

mscheuer · #10 02-06-2008, 07:08 AM

Dear Randy:

We both must be missing something on this one.

In a proper install, ALL iPods that we have tried (and we have tried just about every one since Apple started shipping these little jewels) and we have demonstrated more than enough volume.

Question, could you have accidentally purchased the cable the interfaces your iPod to the PM3000 from Radio Shack and got hold of the one that is really meant for camcorders? If so, there is a 10:1 divider in that particular cable.

We have seen this many a times.

When we returned the unit to you, it would have had to meet our specifications, as stated on the yellow tag we included with the return of your PM3000. This document states that we have tested the system and it met all specifications, including music volume.

I will stay with you on this until it is successfully resolved, my name is riding on it.

Mark Scheuer
PS Engineering, Inc.
865-988-9800
mscheuer@ps-engineering.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by f1rocket

This won't work without a pre-amp, at least I couldn't get it to work on my PM3000. I even sent my unit back to the factory for an upgrade that was supposed to allow it but that didn't work either. The audio technical folks will chime in but the power output from the iPod is pretty low and won't drive your headsets with much volume.

I know this isn't the most cost effective way to solve this, but I bought new headsets that have a music input jack at the battery box. I use a splitter to drive both front and back headsets and the music is very loud.

If I had it to do over again, I'd get an audio panel with a built in amplifier. If you have to pre-amp the signal anyway, might as well get the benefit of an audio panel.