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RV related only
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Include flying planes only
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01-24-2008, 06:27 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
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Non-RV Classifieds?
A few days ago I posted a link to a very nice C-150 a friend is selling in the VAF Classified section.
Yesterday I went back to check and see if it had any more hits and found it was deleted.
The reason I posted it here was because there are a number of builders who are looking for planes to fly or learn to fly in while building.
Would you like to see such non-RV planes listed for sale on the VAF classifieds?
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RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
O-360 w/ dual P-mags
Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
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01-24-2008, 07:38 AM
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The reason non-RV items are not allowed is because it messes up what is displayed in the 'New Posts' and 'Today's Posts' queries. We discussed this topic a few years back and the majority of folks did not want 'selling spare refrigerator to fund RV project' listings to start appearing. The poll here will give us another data point - maybe the mood has changed. I'll bet not, though  . Looks like the voting is 70% for 'rv related only'.
www.craigslist.com is really good at moving non-rv stuff (it's currently the 59th most traffic'd web site on the internet, and posting a classified there is free).
b,
dr
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01-24-2008, 07:42 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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RV Classifieds
Bill,
After meeting you and seeing your -9 up close I'd absolutely take note when you recommend a very nice aircraft at a good price (Especially when you know it's history.)
I think the usefulness of the VAF classifieds could possibly be diluted unless the VAF moderators establish a protocol for allowing non-RV related aircraft based on forum seniority, number of posts or some other sort of 'reputation' value (think eBay feedback.) I imagine they don't have such a policy in place at the current time (obviously, otherwise your post wouldn't have been deleted.)
Thanks again for all your contributions.
Stan
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RV-8 slow build fuselage w/showplanes fastback
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01-24-2008, 07:55 AM
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How about a separate, anything-goes classifieds system here on VAF? It doesn't even need to be a forum section, rather an external system. Any thoughts? I think many members would like to offer up random items to VAF members before hitting fleaBay, CraigsList, etc.
Mike
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01-24-2008, 08:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevDad
How about a separate, anything-goes classifieds system here on VAF? It doesn't even need to be a forum section, rather an external system. Any thoughts? I think many members would like to offer up random items to VAF members before hitting fleaBay, CraigsList, etc.
Mike
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Go ahead and set up one, Mike, and I'll put a link to it. I had one many years ago - one of the generic 3rd party boards for that very purpose - and it quickly was overtaken by spam. The effort it took to keep the spam out outweighed the benefit (IMO).
Funny little sidenote: I was looking at the site stats a few months ago and I saw where a certain directory was getting thousands of hits a day. Turns out it was an old generic message board I still had 'live', but not listed anywhere on the site. When I went to look what was in it there were literally thousands and thousands of porn, viagra, stock tips, etc postings that were going in there each week by spambots. I removed the files  .
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dr
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01-24-2008, 08:20 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Doug,
I'll have one set up in an hour or two. I know what you mean about the porn, viagra, etc. spam that comes around. My personal blog gets 1000+ spam comments a day. Although, above all, ***** enlargement spammers are the most invasive.
Mike
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01-24-2008, 09:59 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
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Classified for Sale
I enjoy seeing things for sale and I have bought and sold several items here myself......all pleasurable experiances.
I'm not sure what the difference is (RV-related) between a 296GPS and
a cessna 150 ? both are Aviation related.....neither are RV's.
I certianly understand not listing kitchen appliances, but seems to me I saw a generator listed some time ago.....and the thought that it could be used to power tools at a hangar without power, seemed to make it RV related.
It is a fine line that should be able to be defined by a couple rules.
Just my 2 cents
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RV-6, 0-360 Hartzell C/S, Tip up, 1200+TT
James extended cowl/plenum, induction, -8VS and Rudder. TSFlightline hoses. Oregon Aero leather seats.
D100-KMD150-660-TT ADI2- AS air/oil seperator. Vetterman exhaust with turndown tips.
Louisa, Virginia KLKU N94TB
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01-24-2008, 10:33 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Doug,
I sent you a PM. Here's a link to the quick and dirty, but functional new site.
WingWorker.Com Aviation Community Classifieds
I used a similar setup to what is used here, because people seem to be comfortable with that format.
Mike
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01-24-2008, 10:44 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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"other'
O.K., just voted "other", now I am supposed to explain.
I certainly am not supporting posting porn, cell phones, etc. But I think there are a lot of things aviation related that should not be excluded just because they are not "RV".
The prior comment about a generator for sale comes to mind------arguably not a RV related item---------but what if the post was "I need a generator for my hanger, so I can build my RV"
Last summer, I posted my Stinson for sale-------promoted it as a tailwheel trainer----and there was no problem with it. Now someone has an issue with a C-150????
Seems to me there have been quite a few posts over the years about wristwatches  -------------
I think what is needed is for us to police ourselves. We know what is kosher, and what isnt.
And if someone goes too far, well, then that is what moderators are for.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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01-24-2008, 11:02 AM
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Senior Curmudgeon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevDad
Doug,
I sent you a PM. Here's a link to the quick and dirty, but functional new site.
WingWorker.Com Aviation Community Classifieds
I used a similar setup to what is used here, because people seem to be comfortable with that format.
Mike
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O.K., I just went to your new site, and was able to register.
I tried to post an ad for my Dragonfly project-------could not find a "new post" button.
Help
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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