New Alternate Engine ???

[szicree]

I see that he got coverage in the prestigious sounding American Antigravity Magazine

[Ironflight]

Originally Posted by szicree

I see that he got coverage in the prestigious sounding American Antigravity Magazine

Yes, but I want to see if it gets picked up by the "International Journal of Perpetual Motion"...

[Bubblehead]

According to the website the American Antigravity Magazine is not really a magazine, just a website.

Let's think about this rationally for a moment. 150 miles on a gallon of gas. There's only two ways this could happen:

1) The route is all downhill, with a tailwind

or

1) the vehicle is completely frictionless
2) the vehicle has zero aerodynamic drag
3) the terrain never rises (takes extra energy)
4) there is no head wind

I don't think 1 and 2 are going to happen and 3 and 4 are impractical.

Here's my bottom line. A gallon of gasoline only has so much energy, and one gallon just won't move a body of any mass 150 miles!

[szicree]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead

Here's my bottom line. A gallon of gasoline only has so much energy, and one gallon just won't move a body of any mass 150 miles!

I'm not saying it would be a practical car, but I think a vehicle that would carry a person 150 miles on a gallon of gas could easily be built. A very fit cyclist only produces about 300 watts or about half a horsepower. I think a half horsepower motor could run an awful long time on a gallon.

[John Clark]

Originally Posted by szicree

I'm not saying it would be a practical car, but I think a vehicle that would carry a person 150 miles on a gallon of gas could easily be built. A very fit cyclist only produces about 300 watts or about half a horsepower. I think a half horsepower motor could run an awful long time on a gallon.

No problem, it was done 27 years ago.
http://www.canosoarus.com/03CalifCommuter/CalCom01.htm

But the designer of the engine in question stated:

"By replacing an 800 pound V-8 engine with a 25 pound MYT and running it on biodiesel, we can achieve 150 miles per gallon in an otherwise conventional vehicle -- plus, you're going to have better take-off and stopping power by removing that 800 pound engine. That's what we can do. It is achievable." - Raphial Morgado

John Clark
RV8 N18U "Sunshine"
KSBA

[Yukon]

Moller has been doing this for 30 years. Lots of jawboning, but 30 years of teathered flight and no working prototype. Pure scam.

http://www.moller.com/

[John Clark]

Originally Posted by Yukon

Moller has been doing this for 30 years. Lots of jawboning, but 30 years of teathered flight and no working prototype. Pure scam.

http://www.moller.com/

Yup! Pure scam and, I have a hunch, a living for Moller for 30 years. Much simpler than actually producing a product.

John Clark
RV8 N18U "Sunshine"
KSBA

[breister]

Originally Posted by John Clark

Speaking of credibility, here is a quote the inventor, Mr. Morgado:

"By replacing an 800 pound V-8 engine with a 25 pound MYT and running it on biodiesel, we can achieve 150 miles per gallon in an otherwise conventional vehicle -- plus, you're going to have better take-off and stopping power by removing that 800 pound engine. That's what we can do. It is achievable." - Raphial Morgado

I'm going to need a little convincing that an 800 cubic inch diesel will get 150 MPG in an SUV. He would have had my attention if he had just said something about the mileage improvement due to lower weigh of the powerplant. It is new "monkey motion" connected to what is a two-stroke diesel. It won't change the laws of thermodynamics. I am, however really interested is seeing how he seals the "slot" in the cylinder wall that connects the pistons to the system.

John Clark
RV8 N18U "Sunshine"
KSBA

Actually, if you watch the animation you will see that they accomplish a full 4-stroke action between the time the piston passes the intake port to the time it crosses the exhaust port.

I agree that differential heating will make keeping the piston centered in the track a real bear - but on the other hand there is no particular force that would prevent allowing the "piston" to slide in and out a bit on the "arm" to allow for a non-circular rotation path.

Sadly, no matter the outcome it is not likely the engine of the future unless they invent more oil...