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Old 01-01-2008, 11:58 AM
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there are several of these so-called discount vendors all in New Jersey, all run by the same crooks.

Do your homework very carefully before buying camera equipment online. If the price seems to low, there's always a reason.
Amen to everything Craig said! I can't emphasize enough how far you should stay from most of the dealers in New York & New Jersey who advertise prices 10-30% lower than everybody else.

A lot of video magazines have begun kicking them out of their pages, and the advertisers that remain are generally reputable. B&H Photo and Video, especially, is very safe, and one of the best dealers in the country for photo and video gear.)

If the dealer has a retail store -- an actual address you can visit -- they're probably OK. Most of the deep discounters do not, and there's a reason for that. Can you say "irate customers?"
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Old 01-01-2008, 05:31 PM
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The website I got my JVC camcorder from was BuyDig.com. It cost me $419, free shipping and no sales tax. And, I had it in 4 days!
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Old 01-01-2008, 08:56 PM
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Cool CHECK THIS WEB SITE

www.helmetcamera.com They have small bullet cameras and a very small dvr recorder. Go to their video section and check out the videos.This web site has motorcycle video of The Tail of the Dragon! www.portfolio.jsdvirtualservices.com/yellowwolf/
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Old 01-06-2008, 12:26 AM
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Sorry I've missed this thread - I've been on travel for the last week with work with extremely slow internet (like 1kb/sec!). Here are some random notes responding to a few different messages above.

The cameras I listed on my tailcam page (http://www.thedukes.org/rv/tailcam.html) are not based on what Circuit City/Best Buy have to say about them. I've found that their websites & the sales staff at both places don't often have the right info (I have a spare camcorder that doesn't have AV inputs if anyone wants it ) Anyway, those listed were based on manufacturer direct info. Of course, please re-verify for yourself because specs can change.

I currently have a Canon HV-10 & a Sony DCR-HC96 and they both work quite well for capturing bullet cam video. The HC96 is a standard def camera & the HV-10 is HD. (All the affordable bullet cams I've found are standard def, so no need to worry about HD unless you want it for something else. The AV inputs in camcorders are almost always composite video anyway, so standard def it is!

Of the cameras I listed on my page, the only ones still available that have AV inputs are the Canon HV-10, HV-20 and the Sony DCR-HC28. The HC-28 is available at Circuit City for $250. All of those cameras transfer video via the firewire port. The Canon HV-10 won't transfer via USB - not sure about the HV-20 or Sony. I have firewire on my computer & that's all I've used. Works for me.

Keep in mind I listed miniDV camcorders only. In my opinion, actual tape is less likely to have issues when strapped to a vibrating & aerobatic-ing airplane than a hard drive camcorder. Since I bought my HV-10 a year ago, flash camcorders have become more available (flash, not hard drive). Those may be worth looking at too.

Cameras with optical image stabilization (i.e. the HV-10 & HV-20) don't do well at all when used in the plane to shoot video through their lens. My HV-10 just makes a blurry mess when I mount it to shoot video. (It's an HD blurry mess, but still a blurry mess.) The HC96 & my old Canon ZR70MC - stolen!) with electronic image stabilization do very well in the cockpit when shooting video natively. All the above cameras do well recording bullet cam video. FWIW, because of the optical image stabilization vibration (for lack of a better word) I've seen, I don't hard-mount my HV-10 in the cockpit. Jamming it between the seats keeps it held snugly in place in my plane.

The little DVR recorders should work well & their video quality is probably roughly what the bullet cams put out. I wanted a camcorder anyway, so I opted to get a camcorder with an input instead. DVR's typically have the added benefit of being able to just hit the record button instead of having to dig through camcorder menus to get things going.

On a semi-related note, I really love my HV-10 for shooting camcorder-style non-flying video. I think it has a great picture & it's easy to use. If anyone cares to see some of it's HD output, check out some of the videos I have here: http://www.thedukes.org/rc/ (just make sure you get the HD files, not the small ones.) Some of those (all?) are resampled to 720p instead of the camera's native 1080i. You should still be able to get an idea of the quality...great for a "consumer" camera I think.

I've been ordering from B&H Photo for over 10 years & have had nothing but good luck. Two thumbs up.

If there's anything on my site that's inaccurate PLEASE let me know so I'm not feeding bad poop to the masses.

Bullet cams...easy! (right? ) (...still waiting on it to warm up to paint my tailcam mount!)

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Old 01-06-2008, 02:00 PM
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Default helmet cam compatibility chart

check out http://www.sportzshot.com/compatibility.php

Should give you all you need. Maybe

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Old 01-06-2008, 05:07 PM
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That be a great resource, except that it's very outdated. I don't think you can still buy a single one of the Canon models listed there. There are very few cameras left with AV inputs. Very few.
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Old 01-07-2008, 11:09 AM
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Default Good point

The technical web guru that lives at Circuit City did say that the number of cams offering A/V inputs is decreasing all the time. It seems like this is a rapidly shifting game.

Mind you, I did end up buying a Home theater system from Circuit City (whom I'd never dealt with before) so there is always something there to spend yer money on...

HV20 should be here wednesday for $664 shipping included.

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Old 01-07-2008, 01:10 PM
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I've been ordering from B&H Photo for over 10 years & have had nothing but good luck. Two thumbs up.
I'll second B&H and would rather order from them than a "big box" store any day.

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Old 01-07-2008, 06:01 PM
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Default Hummmmm

I have a camera in the butt of the plane, one inside rear, one inside front, and one embedded in the dash L@@King over the nose to the outside. The cameras are then fed into a quad multiplexer and onward to the DVR and dash mounted am/fm/dvd/7" video whatch-ya-ma-call-it. I also have a remote control to bring the pictures up full screen or quad on the screen. It makes for some very interesting video.

The main reason I installed the 1st camera was to see how close I was to the ground with the tail upon landing. So I installed the "ButtCam". This plane has to land close to flat. Gets a little tricky when its windy. After that I figured to put in the rest.

http://s238.photobucket.com/albums/f...t=V1112005.flv

Try supercircuits.com.....

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Old 01-07-2008, 06:38 PM
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The main reason I installed the 1st camera was to see how close I was to the ground with the tail upon landing. So I installed the "ButtCam". This plane has to land close to flat. Gets a little tricky when its windy...
Ok, now I'm afraid the apocalypse is upon us. It sounded like you said you land your RV sportplane while looking at a video monitor.

Please tell me I'm wrong! This is too horrible to even consider.
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