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Old 12-05-2007, 07:38 AM
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Default Dynon oil temperature sensor installation

Here's what I posted on the dynon forum, while I'm waiting for a reply I would like to know what Dynon EMS user's here have done:

I have a DEK180 and superior (Lycoming type) engine.
The oil temperature sensor came without any washer to install it. I have used a standard crush washer however I have had an oil leak and I'm concerned that there is no way to safety wire the sender to stop it being able to come loose.
The sensor doesn't seem to make enough contact with the crush washer for a good seal and when using crush washers the component's are normal safety wired.
How do you recommend it is installed and ensured that it can't vibrate loose?

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Old 12-05-2007, 01:48 PM
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I also installed the Dynon sensor with a purchased crush washer MS35769-11 from Aircraft Spruce. I haven't started my engine yet but am not happy with the apparent seal / fit of the sensor and washer. Also the non-safety wire also concerns me. I will be interested hearing what Dynon has to say regarding your query.
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Old 12-05-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Safety Wire

I'm not sure what the Dynon sensor looks like but here's the GRT sensor to the right in this pic, just up from the oil filter. I ended up safety wiring it to the cap on the alt oil supply port just above the temp sensor as that seemed to be about the best, and only, place to wire it.



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Old 12-06-2007, 05:04 AM
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Default same. . .

I have same engine and efis. . . not happy with the an900 fit. looks oblate, not cenetered around base of sender. thought maybe I had one size too big of washer. no start yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it leaks.
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:09 AM
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They all fit loose once the washer is up against the base of the sender. The washer needs a bigger ID to fit over the threads of the sender. If you use a little finesse while tightening the sender and keep the crush washer centered it will normally seal fine. If you want to safety the sender, you could always drill a small safety wire hole through the corner of two of the flats on the sender.
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:29 AM
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Default Dynon's reply

Thanks for the replies so far

Here's the reply I got from Dynon:

"We haven't heard of people having issues once they're using a crush washer. What size are you using? We've heard from customers that an AN900-10 should do the trick. If you want to safety wire, we'd recommend putting a band clamp around the nut-shaped top portion of the sensor, then wiring that."

Personally I'm not that happy with this sensor not being safety wired. So I'm planning to either drill a hole to be able to safety wire it or use a hose clamp and wire that. I'll try another crush washer but the sensor could do with being a little bigger to give the washer a better seal. Mine started to leak after a few hours and when I checked it, it felt loose, which is what worried me.
The GRT one looks much better as it quite a bit wider.


I'll post my results next week.

Peter
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Old 12-06-2007, 09:35 AM
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Maybe one of these would help....

http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pro...p?Product=3245



gil A

I have the same small oil weep on my Tiger at the new Mitchell oil temp sender... ... but I need a certified solution for that...
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Old 12-06-2007, 10:59 AM
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Is it K-thermocouple?

We use to not drill our OT probes for safety wire but have been now for about a year.

I would safety wire it if it where me.....
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:00 PM
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I have had no leakage or any signs that this probe is coming loose in 300 hours. It wouldn't be difficult, though, to put a small clamp on it and safetywire from that to the engine case.

I don't know how close to the edge the "guts" of the sender are, but it might also be possible to drill through the apex where two flats come together.

--Marc

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Old 07-10-2010, 05:55 AM
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When installing the crush gasket, which side of it goes up? The solid surface, or the side with the open gap?
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