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Old 07-13-2005, 09:50 PM
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Default Mounting the tip-up canopy release vertically?

I think it was Roberta that mentioned something about mounting the canopy release mechanism for the tip-up in a vertical orientation. Instead of having the handle come out the middle of the instrument panel, it's at the bottom of the subpanel. Anybody know what I'm talking about? I can visualize how it would work, but would really like to see a picture of it. (And I'm already aware of the arguments for throwing out the release mechanism.)

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Old 07-14-2005, 06:26 AM
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Dave,
If you don't intend to use the canopy jettison feature in flight, it is fine to mount it as you say. I have done several this way. Generally I just extend the pivot shaft straight down behind the sub-panel so that you turn the handle to release the canopy hinges.
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Old 07-14-2005, 06:38 AM
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Actually, I think I said (or meant) the handle was horizontal, so it would not interfer with the radios. Sorry if I confused anyone. Sounds like a good idea to have it work from underneath.

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Old 07-14-2005, 08:52 AM
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Default canopy release mod

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I can visualize how it would work, but would really like to see a picture of it.
Hit this link and scroll down nearly to the bottom of the page:

http://thervjournal.com/finish5.html

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Old 07-14-2005, 09:14 AM
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Thanks for the picture Sam. I was picturing something much more complicated. That looks fairly easy.

I was actually thinking the under-subpanel option could be reached in flight. Now that I think about it, you'd have to unbuckle to reach it--not a good idea, especially when you're theoretically ditching the canopy. Guess I need to re-think the in-flight jettison capability decision.

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Old 07-14-2005, 09:35 AM
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Default Better wear a chute on every flight...

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I was actually thinking the under-subpanel option could be reached in flight. Now that I think about it, you'd have to unbuckle to reach it--not a good idea, especially when you're theoretically ditching the canopy. Guess I need to re-think the in-flight jettison capability decision.
You gonna wear a chute on every flight? Your passenger as well? If you're not going to wear a chute consistently...all the time...then I wouldn't expect to extract any value from in-flight jettison capability!

Not trying to convince you either way on whether or not to install some sort of mechanism -- but be realistic about how useful it will be in flight.

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Old 07-14-2005, 11:20 AM
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Default jettison the canopy jettison!

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Mr. Dan surmised: Not trying to convince you either way on whether or not to install some sort of mechanism -- but be realistic about how useful it will be in flight.

Yep, if I was doing it over, there would be no canopy release stuff in my plane. By getting rid of the canopy release, not only do you save the hassle of building the mechanism, you can make use of the center of the panel for avionics.

I have not had a single instance of needing to remove the canopy on my plane for maintainance in nearly six years of flying, even during the course of extensive panel upgrades. And.........I am convinced it would be impossible to jettison the thing in flight.

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Old 07-14-2005, 12:36 PM
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Wink no release

After reviewing this issue for months before I needed to actually install it, I decided to go without the release mechanism; even though it would be useful for better access behind the panel, which should not be underrated. Even though the Tip Up gives better access than the slider, real work on the panel is limited unless you can remove the canopy completely. In fact, the more I think about it, it's not that hard to install and if I had to do it again, I might use it. The only reason being easier access to the panel.

In flight, I decided that it would have no benefit and in the event of a landing accident flip over, it would have some, but not much benefit. I am sure that my conclusions are similar to others who went without it. Read Dan Checkoway's analysis on his website. It helped me decide.

Disclaimer: I am a 1st time builder and far from an expert. I would also call Van's tech support and get their spin on this as well.

I just read Sam's new comment. I'm glad we have made this issue clear....:-)
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Old 07-14-2005, 01:27 PM
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Default canopy release

I built the release mechanism, but shortened the handle to stick only thru the subpanel.

works fine.

haven't had any reason the take the canopy off yet.

JMHO

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Old 07-14-2005, 01:30 PM
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Default canopy release

just one other thing......

I replaced the two small steel tubes with a modified alum angle.

Its much easier to work with than the split ends on the tubes.

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