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Old 11-18-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Picture of U-713C nosewheel bracket anybody?

In the nosewheel service bulletin FAQ, Vans mentions "newer U-713C wheelpant brackets, which allow the rear section of the pant to be removed without removing the axle bolt." Anybody have a picture of this bracket? I'm wondering if it's worth ordering and using those instead of the older brackets I have. Being able to fill the tire without removing the axle bolt sounds like a plus.

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Old 11-18-2007, 05:08 PM
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Dave, that FAQ you listed has it.. Anyways, I still can't believe the old design.... I'd file it under "what were they thinking..." If I had it, I'd be switching.... The new style makes a lot more sense...
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:52 PM
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You got that right, Radomir. When I switch to the new fork I'm going to change the bracket, too. The FAQ has the drawing. It is now one bracket as opposed to the two bracket setup. The pant will slide on and off horizontally and looks like the axle bolt will easily engage it.

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Old 11-18-2007, 07:14 PM
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The pant will slide on and off horizontally and looks like the axle bolt will easily engage it.

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Roberta or anyone who has info: It looks like you still have to at least losen the axle bolt to get the fairing to slide off. Is that correct?
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:32 PM
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No.. you do not need to loosen that bolt.. It's kinda hard to explain, but there are a few washers (regular size and a large area washer) at the main axle bolt.. and the bracket "hooks" around those washers..
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:03 PM
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Are you telling me that I'm going to need to place another order for more parts that they did not tell us that we would need?

I order the new fork and new left and right fairing brackets, but I did not hear anything about a different washer stack up.

Can someone let us know what the washer stack up is by part numbers?

I was told that I could use the same stop bracket since I have the leg that only needs to be mod-ed.
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:53 AM
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Roberta or anyone who has info: It looks like you still have to at least losen the axle bolt to get the fairing to slide off. Is that correct?
.......to make the brackets work and not remove the bolt, is to leave the bracket attached to the fork by the nosewheel bolt. Instead of rivetting the bracket to the wheelpant, you install two nutplates on the bracket. Then you always leave the bracket with the fork. I marked the exact position of the bracket with a fine point marker so that whenever the nosewheel and bracket are removed for a tire change, the bracket goes back in the same spot. I also drilled a 1" hole in the rear wheelpant half to add air. I then painted a white stripe from the rim to the ground on the tire when the valve stem is aligned with the hole.

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Old 11-19-2007, 07:47 AM
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It looks like you could mount it a number of ways.

1. Use the nutplates and remove the pant with screws, leaving the brackets on the fork.

2. Rivet the brackets to the wheel pant. Raise the nosewheel off the ground, remove the front allen bolts, loosen the axle bolt, slide the pant off.

3. Use a longer axle bolt with a few spacers and washers along with method # 2 to allow the bracket to slide off the axle when front allen bolts are removed. This will allow removal while the nosewheel is on the ground and not require loosening of axle bolt.

How you install the pant is limited only by your creativity and skill.

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Old 11-19-2007, 09:14 AM
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I swear that FAQ didn't have the picture when I first looked at it last week. That bracket does look slick. I haven't completed my nosewheel fairing install yet, so I'm going to make the switch. I lucked out and must have gotten one of the first of the new nosewheel forks.

Unfortunately, the picture in the FAQ chops off the call out for the axle bolt which would describe which washers we need to do the slip on/off method.
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Old 11-19-2007, 10:30 AM
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Thinking back about the washers, you really don't need any additional ones. My thought is to use a spacer just thicker than the bracket material. The washer used to capture the slot in the bracket could be bent out on the aft edge to allow the slot to engage it. The slot might need to be widened to allow the OD of the spacer. You're probably looking at 0.090 to 0.125" at most additional bolt length. I think the bolt will handle that. A wider washer than normal could be used over the slot. We're not talking about a lot of stacked washer to do this. Really all that is needed is the spacer to take up the slack of the bracket with a little sliding room.

I staked my mushrooms on my old fork and will do the same on the new one. A hole for the air filler valve on the tire is also planned.

I will post pics when I do the mod next month.

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