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View Poll Results: Have you ever tried flying a helicopter
yes 39 50.00%
no 14 17.95%
Would like to 19 24.36%
Would not like to 6 7.69%
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:15 PM
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Question Whats the fastest RV ??

I dont want to start a virtual war but what model RV has the cleanest/fastest cruise.??

I need to go from A to B as fast as possible, with as reasonable a fuel burn as possible. Not fussed on seating plan/layout
can be 2 seater upwards.

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(my 1st post on site)
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:24 PM
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Hmm, poll seems to be screwed up. Anyways, according to Van's website, the RV-8 is the fastest, with the Angle Valve IO-360. (212 MPH cruise at 75% @ 8000 ft) http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-8per.htm

Of course if you want something really fast, there are other kit planes that are faster than RV's.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:08 AM
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Default As fast as possible w/ reasonable fuel burn

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I dont want to start a virtual war but what model RV has the cleanest/fastest cruise?? I need to go from A to B as fast as possible, with as reasonable a fuel burn as possible. Not fussed on seating plan/layout can be 2 seater upwards. Thanks Mark (my 1st post on site)
How much money do you have? Here are some truisms?

Vans data is listed on his web site: http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/models.htm

RV's do what they (Van's Aircraft) say they do?

Most RV's, built by individual meet the specs, but some are a little slower and some are much faster than book?

Going as FAST AS YOU CAN from A to B, with reasonable fuel burn is an Oxymoron.

As "bfilarsky" said, an RV-8 with an angle valve IO-360/200HP engine: 212 MPH cruise at 75% @ 8000 ft. To buy a RV-8/200hp is well over $100,000.00. I assume you're in a big hurry and want one now. The IO-360 angle valve is the most expensive engines to buy. If you are going to cruise all the time you will want a constant speed prop so add $6,000. However for about $80,000, with a modest panel, paint interior and 2000 hours of your labour, you can build one yourself.

The RV-9 is probably one of the most EFFICIENT of the RV's. It has a slower cruise speed. [75% @ 8000 ft, 188 mph], but its doing that with a 160hp engine and MPG are very good. The wing was made for efficient cruise.

Depending on how far your "A to B" is all RV's are fast, and the time difference for a leg will not be that great.

Looking at a 600 mile trip, the time difference between the fastest listed RV (RV-8) and the slower one (a 160 hp RV-9) is just about 20 mins. The RV-8 will burn lots more gas to get that 20 mins. You have to remember to be cruising in the 165 kts to 185 kts range in a certified plane would mean sucking 18 gal/hr, verses RV's that are less than 10 gal/hr. Now if you are not in a hurry, go to 55% power. You still are going much faster than 90% of all certified single engine planes, burning a fraction of the gas.

All RV's are very efficient and can get well over 25 miles per gallon at altitude, some 30 mpg if you are willing to fly higher/slower.

RV's are efficient fast cross country planes with very good and reasonable range (+700-1000sm), but RV's are designed for more than a commuter, droning from A to B. If you want straight and level, fast and efficiently, the LONG EZ or VARI EZ are more efficient than the RV's. However RV's can take off and land on short runways, the Rutan's can not. The RV is also going to be more comfortable. Personally from a crashworthiness stand pioint, I would not be comfortable flying a Long-Ez, higher stall and fiberglass structure with out much around you, is not as safe as the RV's with metal structure and slower stall. Still the efficiency of a Long-Ex is incredible.

Reading between the lines it sounds like you want to commute? There is no cheap fast flying. Think it out. With gas at least $4.50/gal and burns even for a O320 about 7.5 gal/hr range, it will be expensive. I commuted for several years by plane, about 60-70 miles round trip. It can be done but I had an IFR rating and capable plane. The IFR rating was needed to make it practical and safe to commute. VFR day/night commuting can be hit/miss, for most parts of country you live. Of course when I did it avgas was less than $2.00/gal

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Old 10-11-2007, 01:15 AM
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Fast=Cash

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Old 10-11-2007, 05:57 AM
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Default F-1 or Harmon Rocket

A close cousin to the RV's but around 230 MPH cruise. Click here.

http://www.vincesrocket.com/

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Old 10-11-2007, 09:11 AM
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:19 AM
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A 180 horse RV4 is 'almost' as fast as my 200 horse RV8 and about half the price.
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:23 AM
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Dave Anders RV 4.

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Old 10-11-2007, 11:58 AM
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.....All RV's are very efficient and can get well over 25 miles per gallon at altitude, some 30 mpg if you are willing to fly higher/slower......

......RV's are efficient fast cross country planes with very good and reasonable range (+700-1000sm), but RV's are designed for more than a commuter, droning from A to B. If you want straight and level, fast and efficiently, the LONG EZ or VARI EZ are more efficient than the RV's. However RV's can take off and land on short runways, the Rutan's can not. The RV is also going to be more comfortable. Personally from a crashworthiness stand pioint, I would not be comfortable flying a Long-Ez, higher stall and fiberglass structure with out much around you, is not as safe as the RV's with metal structure and slower stall. Still the efficiency of a Long-Ex is incredible.....
Three years ago I crunched quite a few numbers getting comfortable with the H6 engine. The best MPG was at 12,500'. It won't do 30mpg but 27.64 is OK.

RPM 1800/3200
BURN = 5.1
TAS = 122kt (141mph)
MPG = 27.64

My first airplane was a LEZ, first flight sometime in 1982. I filled it with gas one day and headed west from New England bound for Minnesota. Five hours and fifty-five minutes later I crawled out of that thing, so stiff I could hardly stand up. The entire trip was planned at 12,500' but it was so cold up there, I'd have to go down to warmer air every hour or so and then climb back up. The airplane had over 3 hours of fuel remaining after landing....that 0235 just sipped fuel at altitude and still made a decent TAS. But as you say, the machine is no good off of a hard surface.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:06 PM
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Default Look at Lancairs

If speed is #1 they are probably better.
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