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Old 09-20-2007, 06:31 AM
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Default Unlimited acro

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I've got the hots to build a mid-wing unlimited acro airplane like an Extra 300. How many of you guys have one or flown one? What would you build in my case and why?

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Old 09-20-2007, 07:30 AM
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DR-107...the margin between this and the super machines is so small that only the top unlimited competitors could tell the difference. A friend with 700 hrs. in an Extra 300 bought one and he is missing nothing.
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:42 AM
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Check out the Giles 202 or the MX2.
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:43 AM
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As Sandifer says, build a DR107 One Design, single seat low wing, fast, quick (+-10Gs, 360/sec roll). I did and loved it...outstanding performance. I think two projects are up for sale right now (at least in the last two weeks on Barnstormers). Another good buy is a nice Pitts S1S or S1C, but somewhat harder to land.

At 60+, I found that 20-30mins a couple of times a week is all I needed of acro...others couldn't get enough and there is always competition. YMMV.

In all cases get a good spin checkout from a real competent acro CFI. These planes can really confuse you in a spin, especially with inadvertant power or control inputs.
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Old 09-20-2007, 09:11 AM
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Default When I went acro school

I had a choice to fly the Zlin 242 or an S2C Pitts. I chose the Zlin cus its docile and and sort looks like an RV...although waay lower performance.

Anyway the real reason for not choosing the Pitts was Tony (Steve Wolf's shop manager) who said..."If you fly in the Pitts, you better make sure you have enough money to buy one!"

Hey, isn't this how I ended up with an RV and a huge hole on my wallet?....

Frank...even more convinced a 152 spins faster than my RV after last nights determination flight to really wind this thing up!...Nope..
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Old 09-20-2007, 10:17 AM
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S 300. . . . .
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:24 AM
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Pierre, for unlimited competition, or just unlimited level acro?
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Old 09-20-2007, 11:45 AM
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Just unlimited for fun, not competition. Oh, I might teach some of my buddies some acro.

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Old 09-20-2007, 12:56 PM
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Hello!

Look here: http://http://www.mswaviation.com/eng/mswaviation/index.htm

These are kitbuild full akro planes! Located in Switzerland! There you also can rent it or get rides. Due to the seatingposition, bottom at lowest point, you are able to pull one to two G more untill it gets grey in the eyes from the feeling its less g than compard to other normal-seating-position-planes.

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Old 09-20-2007, 01:00 PM
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Your choices are somewhat limited if you want to build it.

The G-202 kits are no longer in production, but the MX2 has somewhat taken it's place. The DR-109 is also an option, but I don't if you can still get plans for it - Anyone know? The Panzl (Studaucher) is single-place, so that won't fit your needs either.

Bottom line is, other than the MX2 there really aren't many choices in a 2-place unlimited level mono-wing homebuilt aircraft. Someone correct me if I am wrong. There is also the Pitts Model-12 -- it isn't a mono-plane, but it does have a really cool round engine up front.
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