VFR under Class C?

aviationgeek84 · #1 08-31-2007, 06:33 PM

Hello all,
I had a question today from a former student who is now flying a Light Sport Aircraft. He wants to know if he can go to an airport that is UNDER the outer shelf of our local Class C airport. The Class C shelf goes from 4900' down to 2100' and he would be under that.

I know this is generally legal to do, but I'm not up on light sport stuff yet (trying to catch up).

Any opinions/input?

Thanks!

Brian130 · #2 08-31-2007, 07:13 PM

As long as he stays clear of the Class C (i.e. in Class E/G) and his destination is not towered, or he has the applicable instructor endorsements, he's good to go.

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Mel · #3 08-31-2007, 07:33 PM

What Brian said.

aviationgeek84 · #4 08-31-2007, 07:40 PM

That's what I figured! Thanks guys... just wasn't sure if Sport Pilot rules changed at all.

Geico266 · #5 08-31-2007, 07:47 PM

He must have a transponder with a Mode C. Typically, the mode C veil thing comes into play under the wedding cake.

aviationgeek84 · #6 08-31-2007, 07:56 PM

Thought that was only ABOVE Class 'C' airspace and then obviously the Mode C veil of Class 'B'....

Tandem46 · #7 08-31-2007, 08:02 PM

You don't need Mode C under the Class Charlie.

Geico266 · #8 08-31-2007, 08:07 PM

Well then, I stand corrected. I'm turning mine off from now on.

aviationgeek84 · #9 08-31-2007, 08:11 PM

From the AIM (4-1-19):

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2. In general, the CFR's require aircraft to be equipped with Mode C transponders when operating:

(a) At or above 10,000 feet MSL over the 48 contiguous states or the District of Columbia, excluding that airspace below 2,500 feet AGL;

(b) Within 30 miles of a Class B airspace primary airport, below 10,000 feet MSL. Balloons, gliders, and aircraft not equipped with an engine driven electrical system are excepted from the above requirements when operating below the floor of Class A airspace and/or; outside of a Class B airspace and below the ceiling of the Class B airspace (or 10,000 feet MSL, whichever is lower);

(c) Within and above all Class C airspace, up to 10,000 feet MSL;

(d) Within 10 miles of certain designated airports, excluding that airspace which is both outside the Class D surface area and below 1,200 feet AGL. Balloons, gliders and aircraft not equipped with an engine driven electrical system are excepted from this requirement.

No problem - I've stood corrected many times myself.

Oh well...

the_other_dougreeves · #10 08-31-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aviationgeek84

Hello all,
I had a question today from a former student who is now flying a Light Sport Aircraft. He wants to know if he can go to an airport that is UNDER the outer shelf of our local Class C airport. The Class C shelf goes from 4900' down to 2100' and he would be under that.

Why not get a Class B/C/D endorsement and be done with it? If they are a former PP who is flying as SP then I don't think they need one. If they are a SP then they need the endorsement.

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