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08-28-2007, 02:46 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Avery selling replacement Hex flap pushrods
http://www.averytools.com/pc-923-80-flap-rods.aspx
Pre cut, drilled and tapped.
No way am I using that thin little tube that Vans sent with the kit.
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08-28-2007, 03:29 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
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The flaps on my -9.
Vans shipped my kit with the hex material for my -9 kit.
Kent
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08-28-2007, 03:31 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Austin, TX
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7/9 pushrods
the 9's come with the hex stuff. i ordered a pair of 9 flap pushrods for my 7a. the partnumber (according to my notes) is VA-256.
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08-28-2007, 03:56 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Corvallis Oregon.
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That thin little tube is all ya really need, the hex stuff weighs more.
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08-28-2007, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rivethead
That thin little tube is all ya really need, the hex stuff weighs more.
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I'll give you the same speech that I gave my freind Chad on the other forum...
Making them is easy, I just do not think the factory ones are up to snuff. By the time you tap them, they are too thin for my engineering mind. Having a flap fold up on short final is not something I want to experience. I know, I know, I know... Where is a case in the 6K flying RV's of this happening? Don't know but I do not want to be #1.
Vans sells these as well untapped for $12 bucks each. Thats $28 for the set after the $4 buck box charge. I'll give Avery the $2 to cut, drill and tap these on a lathe. It is worth it to me, plus they are good people.
**edit** unconfirmed but someone mentioned on the other forum that these are $15 bucks a pair so that makes them even more of a value.
I don't want to say that everyone should use these, only that this is what I am doing. To each their own...
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08-28-2007, 09:41 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hubbard Oregon
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Originally Posted by Brantel
Making them is easy, I just do not think the factory ones are up to snuff. By the time you tap them, they are too thin for my engineering mind. ..
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Even to aero engineers, things don't always look right ...thats why they test.
The push rod as designed has been tested. I don't know what the failure load was but it seems to me I heard that it was more than three times the load expected from tha flap that is used on the two seat RV's. Except for the RV-9(A) which has a much larger flap. Which was the reason the heavier pushrod material was used.
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08-28-2007, 11:36 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by Brantel
Having a flap fold up on short final is not something I want to experience. I know, I know, I know... Where is a case in the 6K flying RV's of this happening? Don't know but I do not want to be #1.
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If that is your attitude, you might consider another hobby.  Just that there are many other places you might do better and there is always the weakest place somewhere. By correcting 'everything' a bit you easily add additional weight without even noticing it... Pilots makes a lot of errors as well so hopefully you are experienced as well.
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08-29-2007, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Pirkka
If that is your attitude, you might consider another hobby.  Just that there are many other places you might do better and there is always the weakest place somewhere. By correcting 'everything' a bit you easily add additional weight without even noticing it... Pilots makes a lot of errors as well so hopefully you are experienced as well.
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Hahahhahaa, wow, I wan't to replace my flap push rod with a better one and all of a sudden you think I should find another hobby! Hahhahahaa, nope don't think so. This thread has nothing to do with pilot competence, not sure how that has anything to do with with flap push rods.
Bottom line is, you build yours your way and I will build mine my way and after all, obviously more people than me are buying or concidering buying these or there would not be a market for them and Avery would not be selling them.
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08-29-2007, 06:36 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hangar/home at Hicks Airfield (T67), Fort Worth, TX
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[quote=Brantel]Hahahhahaa, wow, I wan't to replace my flap push rod with a better one and all of a sudden you think I should find another hobby! Hahhahahaa, nope don't think so. This thread has nothing to do with pilot competence, not sure how that has anything to do with with flap push rods.
You're right, your thread has NOTHING to do with pilot competence. I've got 650 hours and many, many landings with those "thin little tubes" so Van's did a good job testing them and keeping them as light as possible and still very, VERY functional and safe.
Ahhhhhhhh........I get it now! Your thread has EVERYTHING to do with re-engineering a fine product. Let's see, is that why we have the EXPERIMENTAL class? Dream on and build it YOUR way, but be safe! 
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08-29-2007, 06:38 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Charlottesville, Virginia
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Originally Posted by Brantel
Hahahhahaa, wow, I wan't to replace my flap push rod with a better one and all of a sudden you think I should find another hobby! Hahhahahaa, nope don't think so. This thread has nothing to do with pilot competence, not sure how that has anything to do with with flap push rods.
Bottom line is, you build yours your way and I will build mine my way and after all, obviously more people than me are buying or concidering buying these or there would not be a market for them and Avery would not be selling them.
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Brian, Well said and thank you for letting us know they are available for purchase. After all, that is what the original post was about.
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