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07-01-2007, 07:00 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by rv6ejguy
I wasn't commenting on the accident as I didn't know the facts. Merely an observation.
The only way boost can increase on a positive displacement blower system like this at WOT and constant rpm is due to either the throttle closing or the bleed failing to stay in the control position.
Since these engines use a fly by wire throttle controlled by the ECU, several inputs could have the effect of closing the throttle without pilot command.
Very glad that Roger is ok and hope he decides to repair the RV with his wife's blessing.
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Thanks for the follow up comments. Unfortunately the plane is totaled, but I am already working on him doing another project. I will keep my comments short, because he told me he will make his own post later after the dust settles, but I will say, after years of being "building buddies" with him, that he did a fine job, both in building his -9A (it was reported incorrectly he had a 7A), and dealing with his emergency.
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07-01-2007, 07:34 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Nice plane
I was fortunate to fly chase with Glenn aboard for Rogers first flight in my 7. Everything was fine and he did a great job flying it. He was very excited and was anxious to get the time flown off so he could go to Osh.
This has to be very traumatic and I'm sure he is just collecting his thoughts. I suspect he will look for another project after the insurance settles up. He'll be able do it quicker this time.
I suspect the roll bar played the major role in protecting him. The carbon structure of the canopy frame probably help but would not be a major influence. (I saw the struture and was not overly impressed with Mr. Wilhites workmanship. Rogers work on the other hand was excellent).
My money says Roger will be back. He's a good guy that loves flying too much to sit in the background.
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07-01-2007, 07:53 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary, Canada
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Sorry to hear the RV is totaled
With supportive friends like you two, hopefully Roger will be back at a new RV project soon. These things are a big shock to the system.
Man, just 40 some hours on it. Has to be heartbreaking. Mine seemed bad enough with all the gear legs, brake rotors, wheel pants, leg fairings, cowling and prop. It was no fun fixing it but better than a totaled one.
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07-01-2007, 08:26 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Chesterfield, Missouri
Posts: 4,514
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Originally Posted by MrNomad
I spoke to Roger's wife just now and he's ok, plane is wrecked. We visited him several times before we started our 9A project. According to his wife, every morning he was out there flying before work and enjoying the fruits of his labor. Obviously, he is completely bummed out after putting in years of work. His wife said the canopy may have saved his life cause he crawled out from under it suffering only scratches (and a major case of depression I'm sure).
Roger did quality work from what I could see.
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The roll bar will save your bacon with these machines. I got a cut in Oct '03 only because I fell on my head when releasing the seat belt. That was dumb but then there is a certain primal urgency to get the heck out of there. 
Good flying and managing the emergency, Roger. Mighty glad you are OK.
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07-02-2007, 06:16 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Near Scipio, in Southern Indiana
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Roll bar
It is good to know THIS roll bar works since I have the same type. If you haven't seen one, it is really small in comparison to Van's. It is several layers (don't know how many) of spring steel with carbon between them and covered with a kevlar outer layer. It is only perhaps 1/2" thick by 3/4" wide. Also, it uses carbon fiber braces near the attach points instead of the center brace to keep it upright in front or rear loads during a turnover. Hope to see some pics of how it fared, but it sounds like it did well. Charles Wilhite never tested one.
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07-02-2007, 07:43 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 823
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Roger's bird
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Originally Posted by gbrasch
Thanks for the follow up comments. Unfortunately the plane is totaled, but I am already working on him doing another project.
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Glenn: My shop is small 20x24 but it's air conditioned and we're able to work despite the Tucson heat. If you want to bring Roger's bird here so we can disassemble, I have a car trailer and will push my 9 out of the shop for a few days. If enough of us attack Roger's plane at the same time, perhaps we can salvage more than appears.
Lemme know.
Barry 797-0265
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10-02-2007, 03:22 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 92
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Subaru engine failure?
Regis#: 6RP Make/Model: EXP Description: VANS RV6
Date: 10/01/2007 Time: 2308
Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: Minor Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown
LOCATION
City: HALIFAX State: VA Country: US
DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, HALIFAX COUNTY, VA
This 10/1 accident turns out to be a Subaru powered RV... anyone with any details?
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10-02-2007, 07:36 PM
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