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06-02-2009, 03:46 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: New Smyrna Beach, FL
Posts: 1,339
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Stein did not rescue me, but he certainly gave me lots of guidance that almost certainly kept me from requiring a rescue! He installed what was, I think, his first Vertical Power VP-200 in my panel, along with dual Cheltons, 430W, SL30, PMA8000, TruTrak AP100, GTX 330, Dynon D100, and the AFS AOA Pro. The phase 1 and subsequent flying have been very close to flawless from the avionics standpoint. I read about problems others struggle with, and I am so glad I went with SteinAir. I also want to say that with nearly 100 hours on my airplane, I am really delighted with the Vertical Power VP-200. Marc and his team have a great product!
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David Maib
RV-10 N380DM
New Smyrna Beach, FL
VAF Paid 1/21/2020
"In '69 I was 21, and I called the road my own"
Jackson Browne
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06-03-2009, 09:32 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Litchfield Park, AZ
Posts: 1,017
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Where in Phoenix?
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Originally Posted by ArizonaAero
I own a repair station in Phoenix...
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Where in PHX are you Charlie? I'm in Tolleson and looking for someone in the near future.
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Carlos in Arizona
EAA Chapter 538 www.chapters.eaa.org/eaa538
Wittman Tailwind W8 N53CH (built & sold)
Pazmany PL-1 N2029 (bought & sold)
RV7 - N537TC (reserved & building)
Emp, Wings & Fuse done - working on FWF
"The air is an extremely dangerous, jealous and exacting mistress. Once under the spell most lovers are faithful to the end, which is not always old age." - Winston Churchill
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06-03-2009, 04:15 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: lake worth, FL
Posts: 9
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Hi,
your panel looks really cool. I really like the "engine start" button. Where did you get it ?
Bert
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06-04-2009, 02:14 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Greenwood, Nova Scotia
Posts: 13
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Nice panel!
Nice panel Eric (Kallio)!
I would also like to know more about those toggle switches. I am looking for a good toggle switch that has back lighting for identification and a light of some sort to indicate when on.
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06-06-2009, 12:20 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Prairieville, LA
Posts: 118
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Switches
Well, I didn't go with the pushbutton start switch. In hindsight I probably would have, just didn't think about it. I have the standard key ignition. The spot below it is for the parking brake cable.
The switches on the panel are great. They have a firm breakout force so accidentally flipping the switch by bumping it isn't going to happen. They are made by "Carling Technologies". I am very happy with the look and the feel of them and can't wait to get flying.
Eric
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08-06-2009, 10:27 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Waycross, Ga.
Posts: 243
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panel is cut
I used a router to make all my cut outs in this panel. I used MDF templates and a spiral cutter. worked out pretty good but it takes lots of care to make a good template. This is just a plane vanilla standar Vans panel like in the plan. Things are shaping up.
This how I hopw it will look.

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Claude Stokes (sportpilot)
Finished Building an RV-10 and a Titan Tornado 2 
RV10 approaching 150 hours Vans kit 40418
See Pictures of the RV10 here. http://btconline.net/~sportpilot/RV10/boatright
Waycross, Ga. Airport KAYS
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08-07-2009, 03:04 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 99
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panel
FWIW--you don't need the large 'backup' instruments. You will use them in an emergency only--the AFS has everything you need. In a real emergence attitude most important, so if you want an 'ADI' handy, put it where the round altimeter is, and move the other instruments over to right, and move radios to left. As I see it, you only have one radio with 430, so you won't be doing hard IFR with only one radio, so putting emergency instruments to right will give you easier usage of high workload instrument--the 430. Have an aux plug with splitter to allow for handheld to get to outside antenna. Also, a second 3500 is better than the 696, unless you want to use the 696 out of the plane or as portable unit. The 3500 has weather, approach plates etc. If you want a backup, get a 296/396/496.(these units, especially 496 are better 'portable' units due to size) Also, I've found that the 'glove' box is using very valuable panel space for something you can have elesewhere (like panels on the sides of the interior pilot/copilot side. Just MHO. Regardless, you'll love the -10. Even with no instruments it is a joy to fly. lb
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Larry Blumberg
Ex RV-10
Fort Walton Beach, Fl
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08-07-2009, 06:44 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Waycross, Ga.
Posts: 243
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backup instruments
Larry hey thanks for the good advise, but I already cut the panel so Im gonna hang in there with what I have.
Ive been reading some of the debate regarding backup for the new EFIS layouts. I developed this scheme to make sure of having backup that comes from totally independant sources. Infact, Im debating now whether to use the Trutrak ADI (electric) or going back to the well proven vacuum pump. The trutrak offers more than just a pitch and bank gyro, but ,, and the buts roll on down the hall as the debate goes on. My reason for using the 3.125 gages and placement for same is to imagine what happens if, all the lights go out and your staring at 2 black screens and a black windshield. I dont want some tiny gages that are almost out of sight, I want those big boys standing right in my face. Someone on here pointed out that electric failure is NOT the only gremlin you might need to face on a dark stromy night. Software problems can also leave you blind and I have seen from experience confusion over interpretation of an EFIS can make you wish for a cross check. Ive noticed that the factory ships dont feel shy about putting the old standby right in front of the pilot. If half a sixpack is all I have, I can find my way on down the road and seek some clear air. For starters only one radio is included by design due to lack of funds durn cost cutting accountants got me. 
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Claude Stokes (sportpilot)
Finished Building an RV-10 and a Titan Tornado 2 
RV10 approaching 150 hours Vans kit 40418
See Pictures of the RV10 here. http://btconline.net/~sportpilot/RV10/boatright
Waycross, Ga. Airport KAYS
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08-07-2009, 07:56 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Highland Village, TX
Posts: 1,519
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Steam Gauges
I've got dual GRT's and full size AS,ALT,VSI & ADI as backups. I've found that I use the GRT's and the "backups" differently depending on the phase of flight.
During T/O and landing - I tend to use the steam gauges. On T/O, it only take a glance at the round ALT to know when I'm at 500' AGL. I also find the AS & VSI more intuitive during climb out.
Once I'm out of the pattern, the GRT's become my primaries - except during climbs and decents, I tend to use the AS and VSI.
When I'm practising slow flight, I use the steam gauges. When I get back in the pattern, my natural reaction is to go back to the steam gauges.
I don't use the ADI much now but when I get back into instrument flying, it will be good for a cross check.
If I had to do it again, I would do it pretty much the same way.
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Flying 7A Slider;
RV-12 SOLD
Highland Village,TX
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08-07-2009, 08:29 PM
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Senior Curmudgeon
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,408
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick_A
I've got dual GRT's and full size AS,ALT,VSI & ADI as backups.
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Yep, me too. See post 38, and 40 in this thread.
Bottom line in all this, do what makes you comfortable/happy.
The panel is where you really get to make the plane "yours"..
Have fun with it.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011 
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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