Maybe RV-9A??

[BobTurner]

Gallagher (“Arthur J Gallagher”) is a broker that has an EAB division. I’m a satisfied customer. Yes, assuming you have little or no time in type, you will pay more for the first year. And yes, this is a bad year - many are reporting rate increases.

[avrojockey]

Originally Posted by Davy8or

And that's another question for you all. Insurance. When I asked my current insurance agent he told me that my insurance would go up with a Vans until I got 100 hours in type. For years I paid $1100, but this year it went up to $1400 for no reason. I guess everybody's went up. He seemed to think a Vans would cost me a lot, but I wonder if there is a Vans insurance specialist to talk to.

Yes, basic VFR is fine. Steam gauges are fine.

Check out Gallagher insurance, very EAB friendly. I had 0 time in type and only required an aircraft checkout by CFI with RV experience. I have 13000TT though, which means almost nothing because it in jets with the AP on 90% of the time. My insurance annual premium is $800ish with $75K Hull, all of my quotes for Bonanza and Mooney were more.

I do recall one agency quoting $1900 for my RV and the hull coverage had a $500 deductible. Not even close to competitive to other quotes. It pays to shop around.

[RV10Man]

Originally Posted by Davy8or

Maybe, but they don't seem to be any cheaper.

An RV 12 would be less expensive to own and operate though.

[Davy8or]

Originally Posted by RV10Man

An RV 12 would be less expensive to own and operate though.

I guess just because of the fuel burn and the fact that you can use MOGAS, but other than that, are there other savings? The trade off is of course much slower cruise speed.

[Davy8or]

Originally Posted by BobTurner

Gallagher (“Arthur J Gallagher”) is a broker that has an EAB division. I’m a satisfied customer. Yes, assuming you have little or no time in type, you will pay more for the first year. And yes, this is a bad year - many are reporting rate increases.

Originally Posted by avrojockey

Check out Gallagher insurance, very EAB friendly. I had 0 time in type and only required an aircraft checkout by CFI with RV experience. I have 13000TT though, which means almost nothing because it in jets with the AP on 90% of the time. My insurance annual premium is $800ish with $75K Hull, all of my quotes for Bonanza and Mooney were more.

I do recall one agency quoting $1900 for my RV and the hull coverage had a $500 deductible. Not even close to competitive to other quotes. It pays to shop around.

Good to know. When I get more serious, I will talk to these folks.

[SantosDumont]

hahaha. are you me? 67' M20F and got fed up enough with the maintenance and the stupid 60 year old tech that I started building a -14A.

[Davy8or]

Originally Posted by SantosDumont

hahaha. are you me? 67' M20F and got fed up enough with the maintenance and the stupid 60 year old tech that I started building a -14A.

Kind of. Mostly tired of the maintenance. 54 annuals plus maintenance, plus damage over the years = an annoying airframe. There is no way I'm going to build a plane. Working on them sure, build one? No.

[rightrudder]

Originally Posted by Davy8or

I guess just because of the fuel burn and the fact that you can use MOGAS, but other than that, are there other savings? The trade off is of course much slower cruise speed.

If you want to fly an RV-9A at RV-12 speeds, with similar fuel burn, you can just throttle way back and run LOP. But I built a -9A because I wanted to fly faster!!

[RV10Man]

Originally Posted by rightrudder

If you want to fly an RV-9A at RV-12 speeds, with similar fuel burn, you can just throttle way back and run LOP. But I built a -9A because I wanted to fly faster!!

Yeah, if medical is no problem.......the 9A is probably a better deal. That's what I'm building.

[Dugaru]

I just told a guy that I think of my -9A as a "two-seat Mooney."

It's an absolutely great airplane. But there are not a ton of used ones out there, and I predict you'll have a hard time finding a decent one for $60--$65K.

Any RV will likely be substantially cheaper to own and operate than a Mooney.

I'd agree that the -3 or -12 sound more like what you need for your mission. I think of the -9A as a super efficient traveling machine; for joy-buzzing around it may actually be overkill.

Also, although quality varies widely, you can probably get a used -6A for that kind of cash much more easily than a -9A. And in my view the right -6A is just a TON of airplane for the money.

All just one guy's opinion obviously.

Originally Posted by Davy8or

I have been a private pilot for 22 years and owned my own plane now for 10 years. I now do all my own maintenance and annuals on my '66 Mooney M20F with AI sign off. I really do all the work and I'm no stranger DIY and mechanical repairs.

I'm getting burned out on flying altogether and I think I'm going to sell my Mooney next year. It's just so old and been through so much. I get tired of old if you know what I mean. Also a Mooney is a pain to work on. I don't think I'm 100% ready to quit flying though.

I don't actually use my plane for any practical purpose what so ever. Just for my own enjoyment. My wife hates to fly in it and because I won't guarantee her airline reliability, we don't travel in it. So I just buzz around and enjoy the view these days.

I think an RV-9A might be more suited to me these days because it would be newer and hopefully easier to annual. The annuals are grinding on me as I do all the work. My question is, can I afford an RV-9?

I think I can get $60-$65 for my Mooney. Is there any world where you can get and RV-9 for that? I might be willing to spend a little more, but at some point, screw it. Flying has already robbed me of enough wealth. I just need basic VFR at this point. I gave up instrument flying years ago. Staying current was killing my love for flying too.