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06-08-2007, 09:44 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pasadena CA
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Nice, Although I don't understand why they have a fan sucking air out through a filter. I though the air going IN was suppose to be filtered.
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06-08-2007, 09:50 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Lehi, UT
Posts: 90
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Originally Posted by osxuser
Nice, Although I don't understand why they have a fan sucking air out through a filter. I though the air going IN was suppose to be filtered.
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Both would be ideal. There is a cow pasture to the north of my shop. Not sure the farmer would appreciate red splotches on his cows. 
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06-08-2007, 10:33 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 319
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Home paint booth
We used a similar design and expanded this to 13' X 20' and 8' high. This allows us to paint both wings at the same time and move the fuselage in and out on its wheels. We also used left over 1 1/2" pvc pipe to stick in the lightning holes at the wingtip end for ease of turning the wings on the sawhorses. This is much easier for two people and keeps you out of the paint.
Since the booth is so large, we used three filters for the intake at the far end and a single exit filter between the booth and fan at the garage door end. We styled the filter system at the floor to duplicate the modern paint booths that use a down draft system to keep overspray off the parts.
We used two 7 foot apoulstry zippers at the garage door end so we could roll up the end and roll the plane in and out. Another zipper at the front of the booth allows people and hoses to go in and out without disturbing the fan and filters. We found the zippers at a fabric store and applied double stick take in a straight line on the plastic wall, attached the zipper to the tape and then used thread to sew the zipper to the tape for durability. Works great.
Pat Garboden
Ozark, MO
Last edited by gorbak : 06-08-2007 at 10:35 AM.
Reason: spelling errors
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06-08-2007, 10:38 AM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: San Ramon, CA
Posts: 402
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Garage Painting
I built a similar sort of arrangement for painting. I took a 4X8 sheet of plywood, built a 2X4 frame arount it. I then mounted two box window fans, one for in and one for out. I also mounted my air filtration system to the outside and a flourescent light fixture to the inside. Put it all on casters. When it is time to paint, I errect a 1" PVC pipe enclosure around it, cover with pieces of 6 mil plastic and that's that.
The advantage to filtered output is that all the fine dust overspray is in the filter, not all over the garage. This system has worked quite well, so far. The only real hassel is setting up the PVC and plastic. I was able to find plastic clamps to secure the plastic sheeting onto the pvc frame, which vastly simplifies assembly and dissassembly.
The nice thing about this arrangement is that you can taylor the size of the paint booth to the pieces being painted. For a wing, you just make a bigger enclosure.
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV 8 Fuselage
San Ramon
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06-08-2007, 11:15 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: newnan.ga
Posts: 426
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I painted cars in a scaled up version of this in my garage - large enough to swallow a 2 car garage with just enough room for one person to walk all the way around it.
The frame was 1x2's with 6 mil clear plastic all around. We made a grid of nylon string across the top, laid plastic over it, then tied it up to the garage door opener to make a pointy ceiling that could withstand the pressure difference.
We used three box fans to draw air through. If you build one, I recommend turning the fans on low first and experimenting with how many inlet filters to use - the first time we fired ours up we turned all three fans on high and only had three panel filters on the back wall - needless to say the booth began shrinking because the sides and roof began sucking in! More filters solved the issue.
We just used a few layers of cheese cloth on the exhaust of the fans to capture "loose" paint.
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06-08-2007, 01:00 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Rochester Hills, MI
Posts: 878
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I use the whole garage
I turned my whole garage into a paint booth. I got some 6 mil construction plastic at Home Depot - 10' wide by 100' long. I stapled the plastic to the 3 sides of the garage at the top and let it cover whatever is on the walls. Then I got 2 box fans and close the garage door on them. I put cardboard on either side of the fans to close out the bottom. I use some 12"x24" furnace filters taped together and taped over the opening 'slot' at the top of the garage door on the outside.
The fans blow out, and the air comes in over the top of the partially open garage door through the filters.
Whenever I'm not painting, I roll up the plastic on the walls I need to access (workbench, door to house). I stapled some strings in strategic locations when I put up the plastic.
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Rochester Hills, MI
RV-7A - Eggenfellner H6, GRT Sport ES, EIS4000, 300XL, SL30, TT Gemini, PMA6000, AK950L, GT320,
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06-08-2007, 05:34 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Fairbanks, Alaska
Posts: 311
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Just finished testing out the paintbooth...A few problems to fix, but seems to be a workable design...it can be viewed at my "kitlog.com" site listed below. Seems that surface preparation is the most critical step in the whole process...Still have LOTS to learn on that.
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06-08-2007, 08:24 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 132
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Nobody has mentioned "explosion-proof" fans. I built and used a pvc pipe/plastic sheet paint booth with a regular fan and got away with it when re-covering fabric control surfaces. To paint an entire airplane I'm considering getting a real explosion-proof fan, but I don't know if it should be a serious concern or not.
Mike Bell
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06-08-2007, 10:17 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: KSLC
Posts: 4,021
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Originally Posted by mbell
Nobody has mentioned "explosion-proof" fans. I built and used a pvc pipe/plastic sheet paint booth with a regular fan and got away with it when re-covering fabric control surfaces. To paint an entire airplane I'm considering getting a real explosion-proof fan, but I don't know if it should be a serious concern or not.
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I'm using a 30" 5500CFM fan from HomeDepot to pull the air "out", with a filter rack between the paint fumes & fan blades. Has a brushless motor, but is "not" explosion proof rated.
With the HVLP, I'm not getting a lot of excess spray within the booth (one complete bay of a three car garage), and I get plenty of air through the inlet filters to "dilute" the fumes.
Seeing how I've been installing things that can potentially blow up for 36 years; furnaces & gas lines; I'm just not to worried about this setup, for painting the whole plane.
When using the HVLP, there is very little excess spray mist floating around. The carpet underneath, and walls are not even stained, with the fuse and tail feathers completed.
Well, thats how I feel about the subject. Others may disagree.
L.Adamson
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