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04-12-2020, 10:22 AM
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That's what I told the IA who did my condition inspection this year. Took me 15 minutes to add a hose clamp to the filter and safety wire it so he would be happy and sign it off.  |
Yep - if that is all it takes to get his signature. You can take it off now..  BTW that will allow any others who think the wire is magical to use the less expensive filters too! As another time saving device, can re-use both the wire AND clamp! 
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04-12-2020, 10:24 AM
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My RV taxi
After the dealer nearly stripped out the drain plug on my taxi I use to pick up RV parts, i dont let monkeys work on my cars anymore.
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04-12-2020, 05:08 PM
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That's what I told the IA who did my condition inspection this year. Took me 15 minutes to add a hose clamp to the filter and safety wire it so he would be happy and sign it off. |
How do you keep the hose clamp from loosening?
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04-12-2020, 05:20 PM
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Oil Filter Safety Wire
I've posted this before, but what the heck:
It's interesting to note that Robinson Helicopter does not require the safety wiring of the Lycoming engine oil filter per their Service Letter shown below:
https://robinsonheli.com/wp-content/...2/r44_sl45.pdf
SUBJECT: Deleted Safety Wire "BACKGROUND: Safety wire and safety wire provisions have been deleted from various installations and parts. Deleting safety wire reduces maintenance cost and decreases the potential for safety wire-related FOD. This letter provides guidance for installing parts with or without safety wire provisions."
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"• Lycoming engines: Oil filters and D723-1 adapter assemblies with or without safety wire provisions do not require safety wire. Installation instructions are on the oil filter."
If a helicopter manufacturer doesn't think it's necessary ...
(For transparency, my oil filter is safety wired.)
Last edited by RV8JD : 04-12-2020 at 05:35 PM.
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04-12-2020, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by emsvitil
How do you keep the hose clamp from loosening?
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Buy buying a quality clamp? Is that a trick question?
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04-12-2020, 06:02 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RV8JD
I've posted this before, but what the heck:
It's interesting to note that Robinson Helicopter does not require the safety wiring of the Lycoming engine oil filter per their Service Letter shown below:
https://robinsonheli.com/wp-content/...2/r44_sl45.pdf
SUBJECT: Deleted Safety Wire "BACKGROUND: Safety wire and safety wire provisions have been deleted from various installations and parts. Deleting safety wire reduces maintenance cost and decreases the potential for safety wire-related FOD. This letter provides guidance for installing parts with or without safety wire provisions."
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"? Lycoming engines: Oil filters and D723-1 adapter assemblies with or without safety wire provisions do not require safety wire. Installation instructions are on the oil filter."
If a helicopter manufacturer doesn't think it's necessary ...
(For transparency, my oil filter is safety wired.) |
Also helicopter engines operate at full rpm constantly and are composed of a whole mess of parts all trying to vibrate themselves apart.
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04-12-2020, 06:03 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2019
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Originally Posted by F1Boss
Yep - if that is all it takes to get his signature. You can take it off now.. BTW that will allow any others who think the wire is magical to use the less expensive filters too! As another time saving device, can re-use both the wire AND clamp! |
I left it on, had more important things to do and it doesn?t bother me one way or another.
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04-12-2020, 06:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilot135pd
Buy buying a quality clamp? Is that a trick question?
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No.
I've never had a filter loosen or a clamp.
But if you keep adding 'safety' where does it stop...............
Clamp too loose, doesn't do anything. Too tight, you might put a hole in the filter.
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04-12-2020, 07:55 PM
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It was a joke for my old boss. I currently own a F150 and a ?66 Ford and also a Toyota Tundra.
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And a good joke too. We are still talking about Fords right? 
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04-12-2020, 09:58 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2019
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emsvitil
No.
I've never had a filter loosen or a clamp.
But if you keep adding 'safety' where does it stop...............
Clamp too loose, doesn't do anything. Too tight, you might put a hole in the filter.
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I haven't either. If you read my comments I never use them and I use WIX filters but had to or my CI wouldn't be signed. He didn't like the WIX filter either but I wasn't going to remove a new filter so he accepted it. I could have taken the clamp off right after he left but that would mean wasting more time on a useless situation. Next oil filter change it stays off.
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