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03-06-2020, 05:59 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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Originally Posted by Ralph Inkster
I thought of carriage bolts initially but the ones in our local hardware store looked pretty crude & maybe brittle.
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This is what caused the one accident I am aware of. You absolutely don?t want to use a cheap or unknown grade bolt. The accident also involved how the guy used the jacks. He did not raise the tail and put a side load on his cheap bolts, which snapped. There is a conversation about this accident somewhere in the archives.
I always insure my bolts are perpendicular to the jack, or as close as I can get them. Probably overkill for a grade5 or 8 bolt, but I don?t want to put them in shear regardless.
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03-06-2020, 06:20 PM
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Another consideration is do not use a bolt that is too long!
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03-06-2020, 06:26 PM
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Or just bolt a 1-1/8? or so 3/8 drive socket into the tie down and run the jack ram into that. No jack mod required. Been working for me and the local gang for over a decade. I put a UHMW tape covered fender washer between the socket and skin to protect the paint.
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RV-6A. Mattituck TMX O-360, FP, GRT Sport EFIS, L3 Lynx NGT-9000
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03-06-2020, 07:03 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Boston, MA
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Originally Posted by Steve Melton
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Wow Steve, Those look really nice! Thanks for the link.
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03-16-2020, 06:17 PM
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Bowling Green, KY
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Angle the Jack
For best results and safety, you need to angle the jack outward at the base. The angle at the jackpoint gets surprisingly large and scary looking as you raise the wing high enough to get the tire off the ground.
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03-16-2020, 08:47 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Ventura, CA
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An Allen Head Bolt
I use a 1? stainless allen head bolt with a large area washer under the head. I snug it to the bottom of the wing and lift away with my short wing jack. (got lucky on a pair of jacks intended for low wing Pipers). Stainless just because it looks cool, plain steel would be just as good. I don?t use that hole for the tiedown any more after installing spring loaded retractable tiedowns in the wingtips.
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03-16-2020, 09:31 PM
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03-17-2020, 12:12 AM
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I just bought some large steel pipe caps, drilled them in the center, and inserted a grade 8 bolt and put a washer and nut to hold it in place to capture the hydraulic ram from the jack.
Easy project at minimal cost and they have performed just fine for jacking up the airplane.
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03-17-2020, 07:59 AM
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Ditto for me.
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Originally Posted by bruceh
I just bought some large steel pipe caps, drilled them in the center, and inserted a grade 8 bolt and put a washer and nut to hold it in place to capture the hydraulic ram from the jack.
Easy project at minimal cost and they have performed just fine for jacking up the airplane.
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03-17-2020, 08:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Rohrer
For best results and safety, you need to angle the jack outward at the base. The angle at the jackpoint gets surprisingly large and scary looking as you raise the wing high enough to get the tire off the ground.
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Raise the tail.
It is really important to raise the tail and reduce that angle. The one accident I am aware of used hardware store bolts and did not raise the tail putting the cheap bolts in shear. He might have been fine if he raised the tail but still use quality bolts or an engineered product.
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