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Old 03-02-2020, 09:03 AM
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I?m starting my Annual Condition Inspection and needed to access the transponder wiring for ADS-B. While I had the Avionics Bay Cover removed, I decided to strip the paint and apply 3m 2080 Gloss White Vinyl. Easy job ? just take your time. Looks like white gelcoat on a high-end fiberglass boat.
I use Stainless Steel conical washers so flathead screws won?t twist the vinyl on tightening?





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Old 03-02-2020, 09:49 AM
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Wondering what the life expectancy is on vinyl wrap on a hangared plane? What does it do for weight compared to paint, on a whole RV-12?
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Old 03-02-2020, 10:00 AM
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That looks beautiful! Way better than I'm ever going to paint it.

Do you have a ballpark estimate of what it would cost to buy enough to cover a plane versus having it pro painted? More? Less?

Also, and this might be tough to estimate, but any guess on weight? Is it lighter or heavier than the same surface primed and painted well?
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Old 03-02-2020, 10:16 AM
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Hey Jim ... where's you get the SS conical washers?
I put 3M vinyl on the panel face & will similarly need washers since the center section of the panel has countersunk holes. Thanks
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Old 03-02-2020, 10:33 AM
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I would imagine, on a hangered airplane, the vinyl would last a very long time with no degradation. I don?t know first-hand, but many folks have said vinyl is less weight than paint. From what I see, this appears true.

My horizontal/vertical tail surfaces and turtle deck are vinyl covered. What?s kind of neat about vinyl on an airplane Vs. car is airplanes already have lots of seams. You can match vinyl pieces to aluminum pieces parts or even make new seams out in the middle of a large piece without calling much attention. Seams can be butt splice or overlap. I use overlap seams made using 3M ?knifeless? tape. The tape has a Kevlar cutting thread. Overlap can face into the ?wind? with no problem at aircraft speed.

Vinyl comes in 5? wide roll. 3M is best brand. 2080 is 3M?s newest product. Buy on eBay or Amazon. If I was building a new airplane I would 100% vinyl wrap. No paint mess ? wrap the plane in your shop as you build. Great building incentive to see parts finished in full color. Maybe enlist an artist to design something really wild with fluorescent colors?

See? http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...d.php?t=172571
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Old 03-02-2020, 10:37 AM
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Looks kind of similar to SS grade cabinet finish washers, but the cabinet versions provide the countersink feature already
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Old 03-02-2020, 11:34 AM
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My -7 is covered in 3M 1080. Took a day to wrap it and $1200 worth of vinyl. Over 2 years old and looks new. Has always been hangered though, and I don't know how well it would fare to the elements.[ROyxark.jpg](https://postimg.cc/F17pLQnx)
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Looks kind of similar to SS grade cabinet finish washers, but the cabinet versions provide the countersink feature already
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Countersink angles on pretty much all general hardware (screws, washers, etc.) outside of aviation are 82 deg instead of 100.
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Old 03-02-2020, 02:46 PM
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Jake - your 7 looks amazing!
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