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12-04-2019, 06:19 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 685
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Originally Posted by descro
The buildflygo videos have been useful and fun. The G3X and Autopilot use in an RV is quite instructional! Hope to see more regarding both.
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Let me know what you'd like to see and I'll record it. Plane is at Evoke right now for paint but should be back in January for more videos.
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12-04-2019, 06:21 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Southeast
Posts: 663
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Do all the above. If you can hook aux power up, practice while sitting in the airplane. Punch in flight plans, change them, etc. Do everything you can think of and develop a flow pattern with your new equipment.
Gfb, Jonathan at Evoke, his work is awesome. We get complements on the paint job he did all the time.
Last edited by togaflyer : 12-04-2019 at 06:25 PM.
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12-05-2019, 12:06 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 81
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Originally Posted by togaflyer
Do all the above. If you can hook aux power up, practice while sitting in the airplane. Punch in flight plans, change them, etc. Do everything you can think of and develop a flow pattern with your new equipment.
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This is an excellent strategy.
The G3X is dead simple, very intuitive, doesn't take long to be proficient for VFR. The navigators, IFR, are more rigid in their operation. You can learn it, but there are some gotchas if you aren't proficient. An example: When you load an approach, the GTN will fly you to the airport first and then out to the IAF. It didn't used to be this way, but changed in a software update just over a year ago.
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12-05-2019, 08:33 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Olathe, KS
Posts: 2,885
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Originally Posted by Spirko
When you load an approach, the GTN will fly you to the airport first and then out to the IAF. It didn't used to be this way, but changed in a software update just over a year ago.
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Hello Craig,
Are you seeing this behavior when you load and activate an approach (not just load)?
Thanks,
Steve
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12-05-2019, 08:02 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 81
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Originally Posted by g3xpert
Hello Craig,
Are you seeing this behavior when you load and activate an approach (not just load)?
Thanks,
Steve
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Steve,
This is when you load but don't activate the approach, since activating an approach is a poor option on a GTN. For example: last week, in IMC, I made the mistake of activating "Vectors to Final" since Approach had said, "Vectors to Final." But then Approach gave me a turn to an Intermediate Fix which had, of course, been erased from the flight plan because I'd activated the approach.
I'm a huge Garmin fan and have installed GTX/GTN panels in my last two planes, not sure why Garmin went back to the old way of v5.13 when the new way is much better/easier.
If there's a better way to fly an approach on a GTN please let me know.
best,
-Craig
Last edited by Spirko : 12-06-2019 at 07:00 AM.
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12-06-2019, 10:41 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Olathe, KS
Posts: 2,885
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Originally Posted by Spirko
Steve,
This is when you load but don't activate the approach, since activating an approach is a poor option on a GTN. For example: last week, in IMC, I made the mistake of activating "Vectors to Final" since Approach had said, "Vectors to Final." But then Approach gave me a turn to an Intermediate Fix which had, of course, been erased from the flight plan because I'd activated the approach.
I'm a huge Garmin fan and have installed GTX/GTN panels in my last two planes, not sure why Garmin went back to the old way of v5.13 when the new way is much better/easier.
If there's a better way to fly an approach on a GTN please let me know.
best,
-Craig
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Hello Craig,
While we don't agree that activating the approach is a poor option on the GTN and don't understand some of what you are saying (if you have current GTN V6.62 software), we fully understand the challenges of the real-life scenario you present, and the need to be prepared and able to easily comply with ATC instructions of this type.
Here is an example of a Vectors To Final (VTF) transition loaded and activated for the KOWI LPV 35 approach. This approach has 4 transition options of Vectors, AVIGE, UDCOS, and ERXOL.
You will notice that even though the approach is active with a Vectors transition, and an active leg to the EGVOW FAF, the AVIGE waypoint outside the FAF is loaded, visible, and in the flight plan should you need to activate a direct-to this waypoint.
Here is another way to handle this. Let's say you are approaching this airport from the East. Load and activate the full approach from the ERXOL transition (while still being heading vectored to the final approach course). Next, go to the flight plan page, touch the FAF (EGVOW), and then touch the Activate Leg button. With just a couple of quick pilot actions, you have the equivalent of loading/activating the VTF with automatic NAV capture to the inbound course, but will also have the added flexibility and visibility to the full approach from the ERXOL transition should ATC want to send you there or to AVIGE.
There are several other quick and easy ways to deal with changing ATC instructions, and one is to just re-load/activate the full approach with a different transition after they cancel the Vectors transition on you.
Fortunately, that great G3X Touch autopilot you have gives you a break from flying the plane should you need to spend a few seconds to re-configure the navigator before switching from HDG/TRK mode to NAV mode to fly something besides VTF.
Let us know if you have additional questions.
Thanks,
Steve
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Please email us for support instead of using Private Messaging due to the limitations of the latter.
Last edited by g3xpert : 01-07-2020 at 07:51 PM.
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02-20-2020, 07:15 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 81
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Originally Posted by g3xpert
Here is another way to handle this. Let's say you are approaching this airport from the East. Load and activate the full approach from the ERXOL transition (while still being heading vectored to the final approach course). Next, go to the flight plan page, touch the FAF (EGVOW), and then touch the Activate Leg button. With just a couple of quick pilot actions, you have the equivalent of loading/activating the VTF with automatic NAV capture to the inbound course, but will also have the added flexibility and visibility to the full approach from the ERXOL transition should ATC want to send you there or to AVIGE.
There are several other quick and easy ways to deal with changing ATC instructions, and one is to just re-load/activate the full approach with a different transition after they cancel the Vectors transition on you.
Fortunately, that great G3X Touch autopilot you have gives you a break from flying the plane should you need to spend a few seconds to re-configure the navigator before switching from HDG/TRK mode to NAV mode to fly something besides VTF.
Let us know if you have additional questions.
Thanks,
Steve
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Sorry for the delay,
Thanks Steve, this is how I?ve been handling approaches lately, loading the full approach from the IAF closest to my position (even if I?ve been told to expect Vectors) and it?s been working for me.
As always, I appreciate the help,
-Craig
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