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08-23-2008, 06:22 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: south carolina
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Originally Posted by Mark Burns
William,
Looks real good! I can see the reflection of your house in the vertical stabilizer.
I studied how you had your tail surfaces hanging. I haven't painted mine yet.
Did you swing them up horizontal right after you shot them?
I know what you're going through 
But, we're saving about 5 grand!
Keep posting your progress please.
Mark
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Mark, thanks for raising the bar. After seeing yours the other day i came to the realization i had to try harder.
you are correct in the fact that good lighting is key. (thats the understatement of the year  ) i have four 8 footers in a sliver room and guess what? i need some along the flor or on the wall. i'll try to correct that before my next session. ive painted several cars and things but settled for rubbing and buiffing if things didnt go well. then i actually got to a point of letting my friends that did it for a living shoot the color for me. NONE of them were remotely interested in doing a plane. they claim its like painting 4 cars. now i believe them.
Because they are balanced they want to hang in trail. i put a weight in the left one where the trim servo goes and it hung down. when i was ready to let it lay horizontal i removed the weight, a two pound bucking bar.
I had tape wraped around the rod end bearings to protect them from paint but it ended up helping me get them to lay horizontal without to much trouble.
The control surface will to go horizontal and then over, hitting the hanger. So i just tied a third coat hanger to it at the pushrod horn and then wraped it around the rod end hanger so i could adjust it.
The rudder i hung by the rod end bearings. As i finished painting it i used a third hanger to hold it through the strobe hole. These things are so light they will get to swinging if you dont find a way to hold onto them. Got to be able to paint with both hands.  which i cant do very well.
mine is far from perfect but its getting better with each session. and ive seen alot worse. not that ugly planes make mine nicer but that my place will be with several others that know the value of professionals.
i thought 5500.00 would have been a fair price but i wasnt going any higher. i will still save several thousand dollars. ;-)
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William Weesner/ still kicking.
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08-24-2008, 04:20 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toledo OH
Posts: 3
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Toledo OH completion
Not quite finished as 82FS will receive paint next month. 40 Hours are flown off.
Equipped with IO390X, RV200/Whirlwind, and Garmin avionics. Will send more information and pics once it's out of the paint shop.
Fred

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08-25-2008, 05:40 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere, USA
Posts: 243
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Hey guys, just thought I would go ahead and jump in - I didn't want y'all to think that I was faking this whole thing!
I've been working for a couple of months now. Here's a quick blow-by-blow to get caught up...
After much consternation, I finally got the shop set up. Built the two custom EA tables (they're taller than normal so they won't be back-breakers). Notice the evidence of a Home Depot shopping spree(s).
Started with the Vertical Stabilizer...
Had no major problems until I had to do a tricky (for a beginner) rivet. Had to replace a spar, so I did some practice...
... and went on to the elevator (Actually, I made a pit stop to start on the HS Stab, but I immediately drilled a hole to #12 that was supposed to go to #21 - Doh! That piece had to go on order, again, and so I went on to the elevator). It went together pretty smoothly...
Then is was back to finish the VS after my parts arrived...
Somewhere in there, my nice tungsten bucking bar split in half (what's up with that!?)
Then back to the HS. It went from this...

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08-25-2008, 05:41 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere, USA
Posts: 243
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To this... pretty quickly.
And soon enough, my ceiling flew...
And just for the DAR's eventual reference, yes, it's me!! I didn't know if the respirator was necessary, but my lungs were starting to feel a little like swiss cheese so I figured it couldn't hurt...
So as it stands, VS, HS, and Right elevator are done. Rudder and Left elevator are at about 75% (no pics, my camera has fallen on hard times). Wings are on order for end-of-september shipment.
Last edited by SteelMike : 08-25-2008 at 05:46 PM.
Reason: to add pics
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08-26-2008, 08:00 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: south carolina
Posts: 1,111
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well i have learned a bunch this week. mostly paints have changed alot since the last time i shot color. which hasnt been but a couple of years.
the PPG dx1791 self etching wash primer is **** in my opinion. i got another gallon and it exhibited the same results. this is what i found after the paint store got me this gallon from charlotte n.c. they shook it for 10 minutes or more and i opened it when i got home. it was like this. i shook it for about 20 minutes with my new H/F paint shaker. it seemed all well. when i shot it, it was like it was full of trash. seedy they call it. the paint is just over a year old. PPG says it has a shelf life of 7 years unopened and 1 year opened.
i then had to load up the paint to hide it and i got solvent pop from ****.
i sanded all that out and sprayed again. you guessed it. solvent pop again. this was not nearly as bad so i opted to sand and buff. it turned out really well. i am moving on. as far as solvent pop i have been told by some very good painters that you cant even use the temp reducer i was using. the paint shop guy even told me that. why did he sell it to me ???? dunno. 40 bucks down the pipe. the pro's said shoot a slower thinner than called for and to not lay it on to wet. i'll try it again. but next plane/car i paint wont be PPG.
yours truly
after buffing out. this worked waaaay better than it used to which is good because i am not the best painter. i am getting better and the curve is going straight up. i am pleased with the results so far but it has been somewhat frustrating to say the least. i have never had problems of any sort before and ive been shooting ppg acrylic urethanes and high solids polyurethanes for abot 17 years on the hobbie level. (one every year or so.two in a good year)

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08-26-2008, 08:40 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Newport, TN
Posts: 7,496
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Status Brantel On the Gear and Rolling!
Engine mount hung, on the gear and rolling! Ready for that engine!
This may have to go in favor of a better one but for now it is on there!
and to see if I could still open the canopy enough to get in, a nice shot of the interior. The end result is that it does not open all the way but almost! I can still get in/out no problem.

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08-27-2008, 08:56 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Townsend, Montana
Posts: 3,179
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canopy next
Tip-up frame is ready and I have no choice but it's time to tackle the canopy. I've read a few hours of posts and blogs, but welcome any words of wisdom regarding this process.
now if the clouds would go away, I won't have to start the wood stove to heat the shop.
EDIT: No need for the clouds and rain to go away. Just grab your double halogen shop lights and heat that baby up.
63*F in the shop this morning. 86*F under the canopy when I started and 105 when I finished. I would say "no sweat" but that would be false. 100*F+fatguy=plenty of sweat, but worth it.
used Vans supplied cutting disc in my Mac air drill. running it slow worked best for me. no problemo
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08-27-2008, 08:01 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Jackson, MS
Posts: 1,262
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Seperation Anxiety
I thought this day would never happen.....N32WW is officially at the paint shop.
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4595/dscf0009jg1.jpg
You should have seen the people point and stare as it rolled down the road.
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Jackson, MS
N32WW
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Reason: replaced large image with link to it (for proper word wrapping)
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08-27-2008, 08:44 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: south carolina
Posts: 1,111
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webb, thats a great place to be ......at the paint shop. wise choice. no need to work yourself to death. 
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08-30-2008, 05:30 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ruston, Louisiana
Posts: 879
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The photos tell the story!!
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Mark Burns
Ruston, Louisiana
RV-7A N781CM 1,650+ hrs
FFI FL-24
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