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Old 04-22-2019, 01:43 PM
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Default Am I looking for a rare bird?

Hello everyone.
I am new to this forum (posted an intro in the general section a few weeks ago).

After some research and talking to a few of the real experts (Ron Schreck & Vic Syracuse), I think I might be a good candidate for an RV, specifically an RV-8A.

I am not in a position to build, so I'm looking for a flying aircraft built to a very high standard (want to feel comfortable about the structure when fixing whatever maneuver I've made a mess of ).

As I am hoping to do aerobatics as well as all the other things the RV does so well, I am looking for an RV-8 (ideally an 8A) with a fuel injected engine and hopefully also a CS prop. So IO-360 or AEIO-360 with CS in an RV-8A.

Questions:

- Is this a rare combination?
- What is the best way of finding such a beastie? (I have posted in the classifieds, but those move quickly - no response yet).
- Realistically should I plan on a year or two to find my aircraft?

I would love to hear tips, suggestions and thoughts about finding the "perfect" (which I know doesn't exist) aircraft for me.
I have already decided to have Vic do the pre-buy - I know this is a critical step when I get to it.

Thanks to all who contribute their knowledge on these forums.
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Old 04-22-2019, 01:52 PM
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Hello everyone.
I am new to this forum (posted an intro in the general section a few weeks ago).

After some research and talking to a few of the real experts (Ron Schreck & Vic Syracuse), I think I might be a good candidate for an RV, specifically an RV-8A.

I am not in a position to build, so I'm looking for a flying aircraft built to a very high standard (want to feel comfortable about the structure when fixing whatever maneuver I've made a mess of ).

As I am hoping to do aerobatics as well as all the other things the RV does so well, I am looking for an RV-8 (ideally an 8A) with a fuel injected engine and hopefully also a CS prop. So IO-360 or AEIO-360 with CS in an RV-8A.

Questions:

- Is this a rare combination?
- What is the best way of finding such a beastie? (I have posted in the classifieds, but those move quickly - no response yet).
- Realistically should I plan on a year or two to find my aircraft?

I would love to hear tips, suggestions and thoughts about finding the "perfect" (which I know doesn't exist) aircraft for me.
I have already decided to have Vic do the pre-buy - I know this is a critical step when I get to it.

Thanks to all who contribute their knowledge on these forums.
Not necessarily a rare aircraft per se, but they do come up for sale from time to time. You have to watch here and several other sites and be prepared to instantly put a contingency deposit that day. A pristine RV-8 will sell quickly and command top dollar. I've see some of the ones with advanced panels sell upwards toward mid six figures. You just need to be the first guy in line with cash in hand.

I've also seen aircraft sold at OSH with cold offers to folks that weren't intending on selling, but with the right price, anything is for sale.

If you are looking for a bargain, those truly will be rare or not meet your requirements. Most likely there is a reason they aren't selling for top dollar.
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Old 04-22-2019, 01:54 PM
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Try giving Jay Pratt a call.

http://www.vansairforce.net/rvcentral.htm
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Old 04-22-2019, 02:34 PM
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Thanks for the responses.
I'm not too worried about the panel - as long as the price reflects a fair value. I'm happy to upgrade the nice to have stuff over time.
What can't be easily upgraded is the core build, so that's where I'll focus.

Can Jay Pratt help me even if I'm not able to build? I don't really know anything about him, just thought he was a builder assistance guy who helps folk finish off their projects???
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Old 04-22-2019, 05:08 PM
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Thanks for the responses.

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Can Jay Pratt help me even if I'm not able to build? I don't really know anything about him, just thought he was a builder assistance guy who helps folk finish off their projects???
Jay knows a lot of people and is a good source of info for an RV-8A like you are looking for before it gets put on the market. He may be able to locate one for you.
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Old 04-22-2019, 05:43 PM
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Great - thank you for the help, I have sent Jay an email (went to voicemail when I called - great message on his VM ).
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Old 04-22-2019, 08:05 PM
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Find the plane you want at the right price and then modify it into the plane you need.

If you find an -8(A) with an O-360 and hollow crank, you can convert it to a constant speed prop and add fuel injection, inverted fuel and oil, and whatever else you want.

This is not a "Certified" plane, so making such changes is fairly easy to do.

As for the -8A thing, there really aren't many out there as most people who want an -8 go for the taildragger version.

Don't be afraid of the little wheel in the back, getting your endorsement is fairly easy and after 10 hours you will be comfortable and after a 100 hours you will wonder what the fuss was about.

Good luck!
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Old 04-23-2019, 07:03 AM
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Couldn't agree more re the conventional U/C version of the 8, far better looking and they really are a pussycat to handle, a lot of drivers are nervous about a conventional U/C plane, there's no need to be! The 8 is Vans best design I reckon as long as the little wheel is in the right place & has an IO360 CS, they just fly oh so nice
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Old 05-01-2019, 03:06 PM
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As Ripper recently said

..."I told my wife I was a nosewheel pilot....she said we'd both see other men"...

lol

Seriously, 5-8 hrs of transition is fine and believe me, there's no limitation on the tailwheel -8. I fly mine just fine in crosswinds that have -182 pilots on the ground trembling. It's just not a problem.

and much more manly.
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Old 05-01-2019, 03:39 PM
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I may end up with an 8 as I'm not finding any 8A's with injected engines. Guess I might be able to learn to fly a tailwheel if I had to
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