VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics

  #11  
Old 01-16-2019, 11:47 AM
flightlogic's Avatar
flightlogic flightlogic is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Prescott, AZ
Posts: 1,614
Default ****

I of course know the adage, too good to be true. BUT, on cheap auto plugs... I just never thought there would be enough money in the equation to make it worth it. Shows how naive I am. I throw mine away at annual and to date have not OHM checked them before install. I sure will now. And a close visual inspection for signs of counterfeiting.
I recently watched a detailed video on Rolex copies. It was clear that it just about took a very experienced jeweler to spot the tiny changes. A layman would not have much chance.
__________________
"Kindness is never a bad plan."

exemption option waived. Donation appropriate.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-16-2019, 07:24 PM
svyolo svyolo is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: bellingham, wa
Posts: 202
Default

I flew for an airline "over there" for 2 years. They copy everything. The state runs all cigarette production. They sell the cheapest cigarettes in the world, and some of the most expensive. And somebody makes fake copies of both. How much money is there in a 25c pack of cigarettes?

Fake parts are a problem in both the military and 121 world as well. Scary.

I got scammed on Amazon a couple of months ago. I found a US company advertising carbon/kevlar hybrid cloth for half of what the going rate was. Sounded to good to be true. And it was. It was some kind of cheap synthetic cloth.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-16-2019, 07:45 PM
rv6ejguy's Avatar
rv6ejguy rv6ejguy is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Calgary, Canada
Posts: 5,766
Default

Unless they are NOS parts, low price on anything you see probably means it's not genuine. Buy from reputable sources or directly from the OEM (some now have retail direct buy due to the counterfeiting problem).

I've seen Walbro, Bosch, Denso Siemens, Huco, Hitachi, MSD copies, cheap and total junk. Some copies are hard to detect, others pretty easy if you are familiar with what the original stuff looked like.

On Ebay, they don't tolerate fake goods and you can get returns on these and probably have the vendor shut down by reporting them. You'll often see terms "xx like" or "xx compatible" or they will use an OEM part number. Real stuff will usually use the word "genuine" in the description. Use caution if your parts are shipping from the east but your brand is from the west.

Some people will go as far as forging stamped trademarks on the parts and logos on the packaging.
__________________

Ross Farnham, Calgary, Alberta
Turbo Subaru EJ22, SDS EFI, Marcotte M-300, IVO, Shorai- RV6A C-GVZX flying from CYBW since 2003- 441.0 hrs. on the Hobbs,
RV10 95% built- Sold 2016
http://www.sdsefi.com/aircraft.html
http://sdsefi.com/cpi2.htm


Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-16-2019, 08:45 PM
DanH's Avatar
DanH DanH is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 08A
Posts: 9,500
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaleB View Post
I think the last couple of times I went to buy NGKs, the best price I found was from NGK directly. Pretty sure they know where their sparkplugs come from.
I don't think there is a direct sales site.

This one...

https://www.ngk.com

...is a distributor also known as www.sparkplugs.com
__________________
Dan Horton
RV-8 SS
Barrett IO-390
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-17-2019, 04:25 AM
snopercod's Avatar
snopercod snopercod is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 2,106
Default

I have a buddy with an RV-12 and his NGK plugs keep fouling, even after he completed his 200 hr. carb maintenance. Could this be his problem?

BTW, in my youth we used to call NGK plugs the "No Good Kind".
__________________
(2020 dues paid)
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-17-2019, 05:28 AM
Weasel's Avatar
Weasel Weasel is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Brooksville, MS
Posts: 745
Default

Just plain crazy.....I'm like j-red, seems like if someone was going to count fit something the profit margin in already inexpensive parts would be slim.
__________________
Weasel
RV-4 715hr Sold
RV-10 "School Bus" - +1600hr counting
Fisher Classic Cassler Power VW sold
RV-10 N7631T 820hr Sold
RV-8 700+hrs
Carbon Cub 200 hr Sold
One-Off Super Cub 100 hr
SERFI AWARDS

http://weaselrv10.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-17-2019, 02:54 PM
MK77 MK77 is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Evanston, IL
Posts: 124
Default

The company I work for has a major problem with counterfeit product. Because of this I've all but stopped buying things off Ebay as the problem is widespread on there.

When dealing with Amazon you have to look closely to see if it says "shipped from and sold by Amazon". If so, you're likely ok as Amazon only deals with reputable suppliers when selling things under their name as opposed to just acting as a marketplace. If it says "Sold by Biff's Discount Air Parts" buyer beware.

Also, if the price seems too good to be true or way less then any others that's another warning sign.
__________________
Matt K.
RV-7 Tip-up - Flying!
XP Superior IO-360 w/cold air sump, Catto 3 blade prop
Garmin G3X
CFI, CFII, MEI
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-17-2019, 08:06 PM
scsmith scsmith is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Ashland, OR
Posts: 2,574
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by snopercod View Post
I have a buddy with an RV-12 and his NGK plugs keep fouling, even after he completed his 200 hr. carb maintenance. Could this be his problem?

BTW, in my youth we used to call NGK plugs the "No Good Kind".
LOL

in college I had a roommate that raced dirt bikes. I tagged along one time to watch. before a race he decided to change the spark plug. he pulled out an old Champion that had been scraped clean with a pocket knife a few times and the center electrode was almost hemispherical. He put in a brand new NGK of the same heat range, correctly gapped. Bike would not start. 5 minutes of jumping on the kick starter and no luck. He put the old Champion back in and it started on first kick.

I swore I would never use an NGK and have not to this day. I do have Denso's in the RV-8....theyre probably no different.
__________________
Steve Smith
Aeronautical Engineer
RV-8 N825RV
IO-360 A1A
WW 200RV
"The Magic Carpet"
Hobbs 625
LS6-15/18W sailplane SOLD
bought my old LS6-A back!!
VAF donation Jan 2020
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:17 AM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.