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10-26-2018, 09:29 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Sioux Falls, SD
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gross weight increase ELSA
Can anyone tell me / reference me the steps to recertify an ELSA compliant RV9-A to Vans recommended gross weight of 1750#? With Basic Med I no longer need ELSA compliance and potential purchaser wants it certified higher
Thanks
Tim
RV 9-A N932WF, ELSA compliant gross weight 13230#
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10-26-2018, 09:34 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,762
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No problem. Since the aircraft is certificated as experimental amateur-built, you may place the aircraft back into phase I and test the aircraft to the new gross weight. The process is listed in you operating limitations. Depending on when you op lims were issued, the latest version, this would be paragraph 14.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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10-26-2018, 09:57 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 12,887
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What Mel said.
Just keep in mind that once you go up, there is no going back down.
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RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
O-360 w/ dual P-mags
Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
SC86 - Easley, SC
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10-26-2018, 09:57 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Maple Valley, WA
Posts: 273
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Mel, I've often wondered if this process applies if you are not the builder of the aircraft. I assume so, but have not found anything that justifies it.
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Originally Posted by Mel
No problem. Since the aircraft is certificated as experimental amateur-built, you may place the aircraft back into phase I and test the aircraft to the new gross weight. The process is listed in you operating limitations. Depending on when you op lims were issued, the latest version, this would be paragraph 14.
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10-26-2018, 10:39 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,762
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Originally Posted by MercFE
Mel, I've often wondered if this process applies if you are not the builder of the aircraft. I assume so, but have not found anything that justifies it.
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Yes, this applies to anyone. The only time the "builder" is required is for the annual condition inspection. And then he/she must hold the repairman certificate for that aircraft. Any maintenance and/or modifications may be done by anyone. Of course there is always the legal vs. prudent question!
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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12-07-2018, 07:27 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Garden City, Tx
Posts: 5,122
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Any further news on this original subject?
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Greg Niehues - SEL, IFR, Repairman Cert.
Garden City, TX VAF 2020 dues paid 
N16GN flying 700 hrs and counting; IO360, SDS, WWRV200, Dynon HDX, 430W
Built an off-plan RV9A with too much fuel and too much HP. Should drop dead any minute now. 
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12-07-2018, 07:33 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,762
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Originally Posted by airguy
Any further news on this original subject?
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If you are referring to an increase in gross weight for LSA, then just sit back with a BIG bag of popcorn. The NPRM is planned for January, 2019. With comment period to follow (and there will be many), my prediction is that it will be at least a year before anything happens.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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12-07-2018, 09:21 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dayton, NV
Posts: 12,247
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Originally Posted by Mel
If you are referring to an increase in gross weight for LSA, then just sit back with a BIG bag of popcorn. The NPRM is planned for January, 2019. With comment period to follow (and there will be many), my prediction is that it will be at least a year before anything happens.
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Actually Mel, they plan to stat WRITING the NPRM in January, so make that at least two Big bags of popcorn.....
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Editor at Large - KITPLANES Magazine
RV-8 - N188PD - "Valkyrie"
RV-6 (By Marriage) - N164MS - "Mikey"
RV-3B - N13PL - "Tsamsiyu"
A&P, EAA Tech Counselor/Flight Advisor
Dayton Valley Airpark (A34)
http://Ironflight.com
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12-07-2018, 11:28 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Omaha, NE (KMLE)
Posts: 2,246
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We should get a pool going. Of course we could all be dead by the time the results are known.
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Dale
Omaha, NE
RV-12 # 222 N980KM "Screamin' Canary" (bought flying)
Fisher Celebrity (under construction)
Previous RV-7 project (sold)
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