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Old 09-28-2018, 06:50 AM
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Doing ground idle and runups with the top cowl off is one thing. Going flying with it that way it something else entirely...

I didnt get the impression the OP or subsequent replies were discussing flying the airplane with any part of the cowl removed.
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Old 09-28-2018, 07:22 AM
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I didnt get the impression the OP or subsequent replies were discussing flying the airplane with any part of the cowl removed.
By George you're right. Shows what happens when I try to read before my brain is warmed up. Oops.
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Old 09-28-2018, 07:39 AM
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I didnt get the impression the OP or subsequent replies were discussing flying the airplane with any part of the cowl removed.
True, but while balancing a prop you will go to full throttle to get a complete vibration profile.

The point someone made about vibration readings changing with/without the cowl may be valid... If nothing else a lower cowl vibrating on its own may add noise to the reading.

That all said, when I did my dynamic balance, I did it with top cowl removed, bottom in place, and had no issues. It feels smoother now.
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Old 09-28-2018, 10:38 AM
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I do it after every oil change to ck for a possible leak at the filter. No issues rubbing against the spinner or flopping around.
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I'm curious why you don't do the leak check before replacing the lower cowl?

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Old 09-29-2018, 09:26 AM
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I don't pull the bottom cowl/sump screen for a routine oil change,just at CI time. I can fish a drain hose to my quick drain from the cowl exit so that is why the bottom cowl is still on. I know that may be heresy to some to only pull the sump screen every other oil change!
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Old 09-29-2018, 09:42 AM
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I don't pull the bottom cowl/sump screen for a routine oil change,just at CI time. I can fish a drain hose to my quick drain from the cowl exit so that is why the bottom cowl is still on. I know that may be heresy to some to only pull the sump screen every other oil change!
That sounds to me like you are only doing a visual inspection of the lower engine area once a year.

The few minutes extra to remove the lower cowl every oil change for a good "look-see" down there would seem to be a wise thing to do.


PS - per Lycoming, the oil suction screen is a 100 hr item -

Oil Suction and Oil Pressure Screens – At each 100-hour inspection remove suction screen. Inspect
for metal particles; clean and reinstall.
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Old 09-29-2018, 11:44 PM
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That sounds to me like you are only doing a visual inspection of the lower engine area once a year.

The few minutes extra to remove the lower cowl every oil change for a good "look-see" down there would seem to be a wise thing to do.


PS - per Lycoming, the oil suction screen is a 100 hr item -

Oil Suction and Oil Pressure Screens ? At each 100-hour inspection remove suction screen. Inspect
for metal particles; clean and reinstall.
Gil beat me to it. +1.
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That sounds to me like you are only doing a visual inspection of the lower engine area once a year.

The few minutes extra to remove the lower cowl every oil change for a good "look-see" down there would seem to be a wise thing to do.


PS - per Lycoming, the oil suction screen is a 100 hr item -

Oil Suction and Oil Pressure Screens ? At each 100-hour inspection remove suction screen. Inspect
for metal particles; clean and reinstall.
Also I?m fairly certain this crush washer must be replaced each time the screen is removed per Lycoming.

https://m.aircraftspruce.com/pages/ha/washers/an900.php
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How does it go from running the engine with the top cowl off to crush washers.....
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That sounds to me like you are only doing a visual inspection of the lower engine area once a year.

The few minutes extra to remove the lower cowl every oil change for a good "look-see" down there would seem to be a wise thing to do.


PS - per Lycoming, the oil suction screen is a 100 hr item -

Oil Suction and Oil Pressure Screens ? At each 100-hour inspection remove suction screen. Inspect
for metal particles; clean and reinstall.
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I also don't check the suction screen every oil change, however, I always pull the cowl and do a visual check. I have been able to catch numerous issues early. This is especially important in the first 100+ hours as many bolts/nuts need to be snugged early on as heat does its thing.

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