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Old 08-24-2018, 12:04 PM
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Is one of these required? If not what if anything is required?
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Old 08-24-2018, 12:12 PM
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Is one of these required? If not what if anything is required?
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The ELT must be installed IAW the manufacturer's instructions to comply with regulations. If the instructions call for the remote panel unit (and I believe they all do) then it must be installed per the installation instructions.
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Old 08-24-2018, 01:17 PM
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Mel just as clarification. Would that mean you couldn't use one manufacturer's switch with another manufacturer's ELT even if they would work electrically?
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Old 08-24-2018, 02:21 PM
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Short answer is that ONLY the equipment called up in the approved installation manual may be used to form an approved installation. No substitutions are allowed.

Why? Because the ELT manufacturer did their TSO testing with their own equipment, not the equipment manufactured by a competitor. As a result, the TSO approval of their equipment is just that, approval of their equipment. Sometimes a manufacturer will list several different compatible antennas, sometimes with the manufacturer and manufacturer's part number referenced. Those are just about the only exceptions to this rule, except they are not exceptions because they are clearly documented in the installation manual as being acceptable alternates.

BTW there is only one ELT of which I'm aware which is approved for installation without a remote mounted cockpit control/indication device. That's the EBC 406 series, made by Emergency Beacon Corp. They are only approved for use without a cockpit controller if the ELT itself is mounted in a location immediately accessible to the flight crew in flight. In our little 2-seat airplanes, that means accessible to the pilot since the other seat is a passenger seat in our single-crew aircraft (unless your ops lims specifically state your aircraft requires 2 crew members, which would be a rather rare corner case if ever there was one! lol).
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Old 08-24-2018, 03:14 PM
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Short answer is that ONLY the equipment called up in the approved installation manual may be used to form an approved installation. No substitutions are allowed.
Strictly speaking, that includes following the installation instructions, too. To the best of my knowledge there are no TSO approved instruction manuals allowing the installation of ?hidden? antennas, whether for ELTs or TSO approved GPS used for ifr. So far, the faa seems not to care, but in the future....?
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Old 08-24-2018, 03:55 PM
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I also think the new TSO (C-126) for the 406 ELTs added the requirement for an audible warning as well as the visual warning on the little panel box.
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Old 08-24-2018, 06:17 PM
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Thanks, I was questioning this because I have flown a lot of planes in years past that did not have a panel switch panel. They might have them now. I was just wishing I did not have to use up panel space for this.
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Old 08-24-2018, 06:41 PM
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Thanks, I was questioning this because I have flown a lot of planes in years past that did not have a panel switch panel. They might have them now. I was just wishing I did not have to use up panel space for this.
It doesn't have to be on the panel. Just has to be within view and reach of pilot.
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Old 08-24-2018, 06:44 PM
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Thanks, I was questioning this because I have flown a lot of planes in years past that did not have a panel switch panel. They might have them now. I was just wishing I did not have to use up panel space for this.
The way the rules were written, if you had an older ELT without a panel switch, you could continue to use it to satisfy the FARs. But if or when you needed to replace that ELT, or you were installing one for the first time in a new airplane, then you had to upgrade to one with the panel switch.

My ELT is an ACK, and the panel switch/warning light is pretty small. You can put it almost anywhere you have a little space, even at the top where you might not have enough depth for anything else.
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Old 11-06-2018, 09:22 PM
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Is the antenna just for the 121.5 transmission or does it send out the 406 signal as well? I want to use a different antenna for my composite aircraft that does not require a ground plane but want to know what the antenna is being used for.
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