|
-
POSTING RULES

-
Donate yearly (please).
-
Advertise in here!
-
Today's Posts
|
Insert Pics
|

08-24-2018, 12:04 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 703
|
|
ELT dash panel switch
Is one of these required? If not what if anything is required?
Thanks
__________________
RV 7
|

08-24-2018, 12:12 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,762
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles in SC
Is one of these required? If not what if anything is required?
Thanks
|
The ELT must be installed IAW the manufacturer's instructions to comply with regulations. If the instructions call for the remote panel unit (and I believe they all do) then it must be installed per the installation instructions.
__________________
Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
|

08-24-2018, 01:17 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Dublin, CA
Posts: 1,259
|
|
Mel just as clarification. Would that mean you couldn't use one manufacturer's switch with another manufacturer's ELT even if they would work electrically?
__________________
Ray Tonks
2020 Donation Paid
Titan IOX-370, Dual PMAGs, 9.6:1 Pistons, FM-150
RV-7 Fuselage in progress
* Cabin Interior - In progress
RV-7 SB Wings
* Both Wings fully skinned
* Fuel Tanks Complete - No leaks finally
* Ailerons Complete
* Flaps Complete
RV-7 Empennage - Complete (a little fiberglass work left)
Vans Training Kit # 2 - Complete
RV-7 Preview Plans
Vans Training Kit #1 - Complete
EAA Sheet Metal Class - Complete
|

08-24-2018, 02:21 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,280
|
|
Short answer is that ONLY the equipment called up in the approved installation manual may be used to form an approved installation. No substitutions are allowed.
Why? Because the ELT manufacturer did their TSO testing with their own equipment, not the equipment manufactured by a competitor. As a result, the TSO approval of their equipment is just that, approval of their equipment. Sometimes a manufacturer will list several different compatible antennas, sometimes with the manufacturer and manufacturer's part number referenced. Those are just about the only exceptions to this rule, except they are not exceptions because they are clearly documented in the installation manual as being acceptable alternates.
BTW there is only one ELT of which I'm aware which is approved for installation without a remote mounted cockpit control/indication device. That's the EBC 406 series, made by Emergency Beacon Corp. They are only approved for use without a cockpit controller if the ELT itself is mounted in a location immediately accessible to the flight crew in flight. In our little 2-seat airplanes, that means accessible to the pilot since the other seat is a passenger seat in our single-crew aircraft (unless your ops lims specifically state your aircraft requires 2 crew members, which would be a rather rare corner case if ever there was one! lol).
|

08-24-2018, 03:14 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 6,767
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadian_JOY
Short answer is that ONLY the equipment called up in the approved installation manual may be used to form an approved installation. No substitutions are allowed.
|
Strictly speaking, that includes following the installation instructions, too. To the best of my knowledge there are no TSO approved instruction manuals allowing the installation of ?hidden? antennas, whether for ELTs or TSO approved GPS used for ifr. So far, the faa seems not to care, but in the future....?
|

08-24-2018, 03:55 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
|
|
I also think the new TSO (C-126) for the 406 ELTs added the requirement for an audible warning as well as the visual warning on the little panel box.
__________________
Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
|

08-24-2018, 06:17 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 703
|
|
Thanks, I was questioning this because I have flown a lot of planes in years past that did not have a panel switch panel. They might have them now. I was just wishing I did not have to use up panel space for this.
__________________
RV 7
|

08-24-2018, 06:41 PM
|
 |
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,762
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles in SC
Thanks, I was questioning this because I have flown a lot of planes in years past that did not have a panel switch panel. They might have them now. I was just wishing I did not have to use up panel space for this.
|
It doesn't have to be on the panel. Just has to be within view and reach of pilot.
__________________
Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
|

08-24-2018, 06:44 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 6,767
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles in SC
Thanks, I was questioning this because I have flown a lot of planes in years past that did not have a panel switch panel. They might have them now. I was just wishing I did not have to use up panel space for this.
|
The way the rules were written, if you had an older ELT without a panel switch, you could continue to use it to satisfy the FARs. But if or when you needed to replace that ELT, or you were installing one for the first time in a new airplane, then you had to upgrade to one with the panel switch.
My ELT is an ACK, and the panel switch/warning light is pretty small. You can put it almost anywhere you have a little space, even at the top where you might not have enough depth for anything else.
|

11-06-2018, 09:22 PM
|
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Tucson
Posts: 2
|
|
ELT Antenna
Is the antenna just for the 121.5 transmission or does it send out the 406 signal as well? I want to use a different antenna for my composite aircraft that does not require a ground plane but want to know what the antenna is being used for.
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:42 AM.
|