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Old 08-12-2018, 07:07 PM
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This may all stem from the no ?through the fence? operations policy the FAA is pushing. Access to the airport from privately owned hangers might be considered through the fence even though they are on airport property. A local airport has been on a campaign to buy out private hangers because of this. The difference on these is the land the hangers are on is privately owned even though they are located inside the airport perimeter. The county sold them the land years ago and now they want it back. It sounds like some airport mangers are trying to raise revenue by jacking up the hanger rent on you rich airplane owners. Ya got to pay your fair share!
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Old 08-12-2018, 08:05 PM
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I?m wondering, since they don?t technically yet own the structure can?t the group of hanger owners just tear down and remove their structures. Taking the hangers down and people moving their planes to another airport I think would send a pretty strong message to the airport board.
And that's the leverage you have to re-negociate your lease before the structure becomes airport property for $1. I have seen them renewed with another option and I've seem them not renewed.
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Old 08-12-2018, 08:16 PM
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I?m wondering, since they don?t technically yet own the structure can?t the group of hanger owners just tear down and remove their structures. Taking the hangers down and people moving their planes to another airport I think would send a pretty strong message to the airport board.
Some of these older leases date back to the times when Port-a-Ports were a common low cost hangar structure.

They also got around the property tax laws by having trailer registrations just like mobile homes used ti have.

Since these were technically portable, once the lease ran out the owner could theoretically fold it up and trailer it off to another location.

In practice, these portable hangars become permanently attached to the ground over the years.
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Old 08-12-2018, 08:19 PM
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Jordan curious as to witch airport your at ? Mine Farmvile KFVX only has privately owned hangars on one year land leases. Frankly I think the leases should mirror the FAA grant funding time limits at that lessees could be assured that they can safely invest in their hangars without concern of being booted off the field after making improvements to the structures.
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Old 08-13-2018, 04:43 AM
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Our airport ,which is privately owned has been going through a year long dramatic lease battle that has resulted in 25 plus hangar vacancies, and a myriad of modified or contested leases. The airport owners have no actual on-site management and are trying to oversee the operation from far away. We are hoping it is just a phase that will pass, but has taken a tight knit great aviation community to the breaking point at times, with seemingly no compassion for those whom have paid the bills for the last several decades.We have been told by the owners it is all in their full liability protection,but it has come at a cost to the current and future tenants. Sad to see it is not only here that its happening.
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:01 AM
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Yes, we had a land lease tenant with two privately owned hangars. He dismantled one and hauled it away. The other is now city property and leased to the CAP.
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:21 AM
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VAF's size and activity level would probably serve as a great (non-political, if that is possible) watchdog and knowledge pool for the issue of where the planes live.

I'll soon lose my nice setup shared with another RV-6 as the airport moves a mile to a new runway without hangars ready. I assume the airport board and county will off pad leases as they never got serious about building hangars. They set up what could be 24 T hangar pads.

This thread is in part why we'll just go to a private strip hangar home. The 2 more local GA airports get way north of $300/month.
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:31 AM
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If you want to build a private hangar at our airport, you put in a request and it gets "considered". Unfortunately, unless you are severely well connected politically (not just well connected) it doesn't happen. The waiting list for a "T" hangar here is at 179 names and slowly growing. It seems the attitude is "We have plenty of people in line waiting so if you don't like what we do, go somewhere else."



FWIW: They are in the process of adding two buildings which will increase "T" hangar spaces by 23. They are mainly funded by a state grant.
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