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Old 07-06-2018, 07:53 AM
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Default Yes an I don't know.

I have seen dogs getting propped down threw the years and being picked up in toe-sacks. I have also seen deer and other animals get propped as well as people. Even with this understanding I still try to work with the other pilots that will listen to keep it safe for every one and thing on the field that I am on.
You have to do what you are comfortable with and hopefully use good judgment. What we do as operators of aircraft will never be totally safe and needs risk assessment. I hope you guys can work it out.

just a thought, Yours, R.E.A. III # 80888
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Old 07-06-2018, 07:57 AM
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Whether we love or hate dogs is immaterial. The dog is just doing what dogs do- barking, running, chasing etc. The issue is with the owner keeping their dog under control so it doesn't get injured or killed or damage an aircraft or injure someone. Simple stuff. Obey the rules, use common sense and everyone stays happy and safe. It's an owner issue, not a dog issue.

I've seen FBO and club dogs and cats who are just interested in human attention and laying in a sunny spot- not chasing airplanes. Always nice to have them around, adding some character and warmth to the surroundings.
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:31 AM
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A local cropduster close to me has a 3-legged dog that was not born that way. The dog no longer desires to chase airplanes either.
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Old 07-06-2018, 12:22 PM
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I?ve read here several people who indicate that it?s personal choice as to how a particular pilot should respond to a dog owner who lets their dog run loose. I strongly disagree! That?s equivalent to saying ?each man for himself.?

It?s time to end the conversation and politely say, the next time you observe his dog being allowed to run loose you?ll report him and the airport manager to the FAA. PERIOD.

I love dogs but love people more.
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Old 07-06-2018, 02:25 PM
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Cool Airport Dogs!

?.Actually our airport could benefit eminency by introducing a couple of
large, quick running, guard dog type personalities to the mix. Every AM
until about ten, and every evening from dusk until the following AM our
airport is visited by hundreds of large COYOTE. They are not particularly
afraid of people, and have no fear whatsoever of airplanes. They run in
front of you when taxying, landing Etc. I had one run in my hangar and
steel a sandwich off the table! In the evening you can sit there and count
fifty or so trotting around the airport. The airport has an eight foot fence
completely around it so the dogs won't get away. The COYOTES hop over
this fence like it isn't there and don't even touch it. They sleep on the
runway in the AM to get warm, and usually don't move for aircraft landing.
"Airport dogs " could do a great service by running them off and
contributing to safety concerns at the airport. Or, we could just put up a
sign that says "Trespassing Coyote Will Be Prosecuted". Thanks, Allan..
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Old 07-06-2018, 02:34 PM
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?.Actually our airport could benefit eminency by introducing a couple of
large, quick running, guard dog type personalities to the mix. Every AM
until about ten, and every evening from dusk until the following AM our
airport is visited by hundreds of large COYOTE. They are not particularly
afraid of people, and have no fear whatsoever of airplanes. They run in
front of you when taxying, landing Etc. I had one run in my hangar and
steel a sandwich off the table! In the evening you can sit there and count
fifty or so trotting around the airport. The airport has an eight foot fence
completely around it so the dogs won't get away. The COYOTES hop over
this fence like it isn't there and don't even touch it. They sleep on the
runway in the AM to get warm, and usually don't move for aircraft landing.
"Airport dogs " could do a great service by running them off and
contributing to safety concerns at the airport. Or, we could just put up a
sign that says "Trespassing Coyote Will Be Prosecuted". Thanks, Allan..
Not sure it's legal in California, but a pellet gun works great, if not, a .22 rifle is also quite effective.
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Old 07-06-2018, 03:19 PM
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Every AM
until about ten, and every evening from dusk until the following AM our
airport is visited by hundreds of large COYOTE.
One or two loose airport dogs will just become snacks for that many coyotes.
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Old 07-06-2018, 08:37 PM
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One can create a long list of most likely to kill/injure/damage with most likely at the top, second most likely as #2, and so on in descending order of risk. Whenever someone is focused on something like #274 on the list, it's clearly an axe to grind (some form of cognitive bias) OR else they've controlled or mitigated #1-273. It's never the latter.

A hot headed pilot is a greater risk to aviation safety than is a trained dog comfortable in its environment under direct supervision and control of it's owner with a history of only appropriate behavior.
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Old 07-07-2018, 06:36 AM
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I've seen some airport dogs and they've never been an issue. While I wouldn't bring a dog to the airport and play fetch, if I'm traveling with one, I would likely have the dog run a bit at during a stop.

I'm unaware of any FAA guidelines that prevent it and I'm also in the camp that positive control can be off leash. A leash can also be meaningless... I've seen a number of dogs run loose because they owners couldn't control a leashed dog.
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Old 07-07-2018, 07:20 AM
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My Pomeranian likes hangin' at the hangar.

She only wears her lead if we go over to the Beacon, which is dog friendly on the patio.

I think the large number of live-in hangars at T67 contributes to the number of airport dogs. One guy even has an airport pig! Haven't seen it on a leash.
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