VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics


Go Back   VAF Forums > Main > RV General Discussion/News
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-18-2007, 11:23 AM
Brambo Brambo is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Boulder City
Posts: 179
Question Torque Values

I?m working on the fuel and vent lines in the forward cabin and have run across something interesting. The torque values given in the Aircraft Handbook show 40-65 for -4 and 75-125 for -6 aluminum flared fittings. I am experimenting with the Mechanics? Toolbox program and it shows torque values of -4 (100-140) and -6 (150-195). That?s a big difference, does anyone know why this would be?

Bill Rambo
RV-7A
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-18-2007, 11:30 AM
az_gila's Avatar
az_gila az_gila is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
Exclamation Use your numbers

My A&P General Handbook (FAA doc EA-AC 65-9A) gives the same as the lower ones you got for Aluminum tubing -

-4 40 - 65 inch-lbs.
-6 75 -125 inch-lbs.

I'd use these numbers....

gil in Tucson
__________________
Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-19-2007, 12:21 AM
Captain Avgas Captain Avgas is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,867
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brambo
I?m working on the fuel and vent lines in the forward cabin and have run across something interesting. The torque values given in the Aircraft Handbook show 40-65 for -4 and 75-125 for -6 aluminum flared fittings. I am experimenting with the Mechanics? Toolbox program and it shows torque values of -4 (100-140) and -6 (150-195). That?s a big difference, does anyone know why this would be?

Bill Rambo
RV-7A
I use AC 43.13. That's the bible in my opinion. Wrench torque for tightening AN-818 nuts on aluminium tube (inch pounds).
-4 min 50 max 65
-6 min 110 max 130
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-19-2007, 09:05 AM
Rick_A's Avatar
Rick_A Rick_A is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Highland Village, TX
Posts: 1,519
Default Crow's foot?

Since you normally can't get a socket on these, do you use a Crow's foot on the torque wrench?

I seem to remember seeing posts that the German method was OK - "good'n tight", but don't over do it.
__________________
Rick Aronow,
A&P
Flying 7A Slider;
RV-12 SOLD
Highland Village,TX
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-19-2007, 05:55 PM
Captain Avgas Captain Avgas is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,867
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick_A
Since you normally can't get a socket on these, do you use a Crow's foot on the torque wrench?

I seem to remember seeing posts that the German method was OK - "good'n tight", but don't over do it.
I used a crows foot on a torque wrench. I would say it would be very difficult for an inexperienced person to ensure that they were within the min and max torques for these fittings without some form of calibration. And these are very crucial fittings.

Bob
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-22-2007, 03:06 PM
hammer408 hammer408 is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, Pa.
Posts: 51
Default Crows Foot

I'm just about ready to install my lines also.....where can you purchase a Crows foot in order to torque thoses nuts properly?

Thanks

Henry T.
N918HB
9A
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-22-2007, 03:12 PM
az_gila's Avatar
az_gila az_gila is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
Exclamation Sears

Quote:
Originally Posted by hammer408
I'm just about ready to install my lines also.....where can you purchase a Crows foot in order to torque thoses nuts properly?

Thanks

Henry T.
N918HB
9A
Good ol' Sears tool dept.....

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...seBVCookie=Yes

gil in Tucson
__________________
Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-22-2007, 04:07 PM
erich weaver's Avatar
erich weaver erich weaver is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: santa barbara, CA
Posts: 1,681
Default

Harbor Freight has 'em for half of what they cost at Sears.

In the absence of either, I think somewhere I saw instructions about tightening to snug, and then a certain number of flats past that? Somebody fill in the blanks for me here.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-22-2007, 08:17 PM
Jekyll Jekyll is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 625
Default

Buy a full set; you'll find other uses. ($40 at Sears 2 years ago, Plus lifetime replacement warrantee.)

Jekyll
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-23-2007, 12:02 AM
az_gila's Avatar
az_gila az_gila is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
Exclamation Beam wrenches

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jekyll
Buy a full set; you'll find other uses. ($40 at Sears 2 years ago, Plus lifetime replacement warrantee.)

Jekyll
Still $40... and if you use a beam type torque wrench, you can keep the 90 degrees correct, and not have to apply any mathematics for torque correction...

Details here....

http://www.trialsnuts.com/TORQUED.pdf

gil in Tucson
__________________
Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:26 AM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.