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03-18-2007, 11:23 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Boulder City
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Torque Values
I?m working on the fuel and vent lines in the forward cabin and have run across something interesting. The torque values given in the Aircraft Handbook show 40-65 for -4 and 75-125 for -6 aluminum flared fittings. I am experimenting with the Mechanics? Toolbox program and it shows torque values of -4 (100-140) and -6 (150-195). That?s a big difference, does anyone know why this would be?
Bill Rambo
RV-7A
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03-18-2007, 11:30 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
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Use your numbers
My A&P General Handbook (FAA doc EA-AC 65-9A) gives the same as the lower ones you got for Aluminum tubing -
-4 40 - 65 inch-lbs.
-6 75 -125 inch-lbs.
I'd use these numbers....
gil in Tucson
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EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
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03-19-2007, 12:21 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,867
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Originally Posted by Brambo
I?m working on the fuel and vent lines in the forward cabin and have run across something interesting. The torque values given in the Aircraft Handbook show 40-65 for -4 and 75-125 for -6 aluminum flared fittings. I am experimenting with the Mechanics? Toolbox program and it shows torque values of -4 (100-140) and -6 (150-195). That?s a big difference, does anyone know why this would be?
Bill Rambo
RV-7A
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I use AC 43.13. That's the bible in my opinion. Wrench torque for tightening AN-818 nuts on aluminium tube (inch pounds).
-4 min 50 max 65
-6 min 110 max 130
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03-19-2007, 09:05 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Highland Village, TX
Posts: 1,519
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Crow's foot?
Since you normally can't get a socket on these, do you use a Crow's foot on the torque wrench?
I seem to remember seeing posts that the German method was OK - "good'n tight", but don't over do it.
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03-19-2007, 05:55 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,867
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Originally Posted by Rick_A
Since you normally can't get a socket on these, do you use a Crow's foot on the torque wrench?
I seem to remember seeing posts that the German method was OK - "good'n tight", but don't over do it.
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I used a crows foot on a torque wrench. I would say it would be very difficult for an inexperienced person to ensure that they were within the min and max torques for these fittings without some form of calibration. And these are very crucial fittings.
Bob
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03-22-2007, 03:06 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, Pa.
Posts: 51
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Crows Foot
I'm just about ready to install my lines also.....where can you purchase a Crows foot in order to torque thoses nuts properly?
Thanks
Henry T.
N918HB
9A
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03-22-2007, 03:12 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
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Sears
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Originally Posted by hammer408
I'm just about ready to install my lines also.....where can you purchase a Crows foot in order to torque thoses nuts properly?
Thanks
Henry T.
N918HB
9A
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Good ol' Sears tool dept.....
http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/produ...seBVCookie=Yes
gil in Tucson
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Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
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03-22-2007, 04:07 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: santa barbara, CA
Posts: 1,681
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Harbor Freight has 'em for half of what they cost at Sears.
In the absence of either, I think somewhere I saw instructions about tightening to snug, and then a certain number of flats past that? Somebody fill in the blanks for me here.
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03-22-2007, 08:17 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 625
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Buy a full set; you'll find other uses. ($40 at Sears 2 years ago, Plus lifetime replacement warrantee.)
Jekyll
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03-23-2007, 12:02 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
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Beam wrenches
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Originally Posted by Jekyll
Buy a full set; you'll find other uses. ($40 at Sears 2 years ago, Plus lifetime replacement warrantee.)
Jekyll
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Still $40... and if you use a beam type torque wrench, you can keep the 90 degrees correct, and not have to apply any mathematics for torque correction...
Details here....
http://www.trialsnuts.com/TORQUED.pdf
gil in Tucson
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Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
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