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03-14-2007, 06:39 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sandpoint, Idaho
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FAA flight hours survey
I just got a post card in the mail from the FAA c/o PA Consulting Group. The card says "Each year the FAA conducts a survey to calculate fleet size and the hours flown by the general aviation community..."
My RV has been flying since 2003 and I've never gotten anything like this before. I'm very suspicious. Sounds like they are trying to determine how much money they will make with the new user fees. Personally I'm not playing. I don't think it will matter either way but I just don't think its any of their business how much I fly.
Anyone else get one of these cards? Anyone else suspicious?
Karl
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03-14-2007, 06:56 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Concord, CA
Posts: 52
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The FAA wants to know
I got the same cards, one for each airplane.
I have gotten them before, maybe 5 years appart.
One of course grows more suspicious about the need to know under the current climat.
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03-14-2007, 07:33 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hazlehurst, GA
Posts: 1,359
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Got one too!
Trashed it. Will trash the paper copy to follow too. Big Brother watches intersections with cameras, monitors bank accounts and constantly erodes our personal liberties. Why use a computer, allowing the FAA to record your internet protocols, possibly writing cookies to your hard drive, etc., to give them personal information that may be converted in to subjective data used to justify user fees, future restrictions and create more obstacles that the alaphabet organizations will need to fight.
Remember, this is from the same "we are here to help you" agency that ignored the destruction of Meigs Field! Forgive, maybe. Forget, NEVER!
FWIW and I am not paranoid, so quit watching me!
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03-14-2007, 07:47 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dayton, NV
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Been There, Done That....
This came up a couple of days ago on THIS thread.
Karl, you don't think the Guv'ment doesn't already know everything about you? You worked here Long enough.....
After doing this every year for a long time, I bet the FAA already knows exactly how to correct the statistics based on the number of folks that won't respond..... 
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03-14-2007, 11:38 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 506
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You already are required to report your total flight hours and hours-in-the-last-6-months on your medical paperwork every few years. I'm surprised that the FAA is collecting this redundant data, and that y'all are so paranoid since they do already have this data.
Assuming you keep your medical current and report honestly, I don't see what the big deal is. Geesh, the medical paperwork asks a lot more nosy questions than this 
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03-15-2007, 08:05 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 27
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It's just another plan by the man to bring a brother down.........trashed it too.
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03-15-2007, 08:42 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Phoenix, Az
Posts: 920
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Guys, since this data collection effort has been going on for years, seems illogical to me to attribute it to the recent taxation proposals.
Fleet size and usage rates are how the Feds compute accident rates.
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03-15-2007, 08:48 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hazlehurst, GA
Posts: 1,359
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Maybe, but first one for me!
The medical data is a separate issue, although I agree it is redundant. Somebody start a new thread and lets see where the AME lobby stands. If the DMV says I can drive, I should be able to fly day VFR.
Oh, I forgot the anti NRA efforts by BB in my last post.
BB is trying to eliminate the possibility of another Boston Tea Party. Those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it. Life, liberty, the persuit of happiness, all men created equal and the like were not the cries of the apathetic, but paid for with blood and sacrifice. We are the benifactors of these efforts and stewards charged with protecting that investment. Please do not for get that fact, not to mention how much BB paid for the post cards.
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Last edited by N62XS : 03-15-2007 at 08:54 AM.
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03-15-2007, 10:51 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Phoenix, Az
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No Robbie, it's not redundant. When I fill out my medical application every 6 months, the Feds have no way of knowing if my flight hours are civilian, military, GA, experimental GA etc. The mailings in question are make and model specific (your N-Number) and give the Feds the data they need to determine fleet mix and usage.
The DMV makes no determination of your health, aside from an eye test. Why should this be used for airplanes?
Last edited by Yukon : 03-15-2007 at 10:54 AM.
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03-15-2007, 12:19 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Coshocton, Ohio
Posts: 315
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Yukon
The DMV makes no determination of your health, aside from an eye test. Why should this be used for airplanes?
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Has been for decades: Gliders, LTA, and more recently Light Sport 
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