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09-21-2017, 12:32 PM
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Oil Quantity (IO-360)?
Hi All,
basic question but figured I ask.... My IO360 manual states no more then 8qts and some ridiculous number of no less then 4qts.
I have been hovering at about 6 qts. Is that acceptable or should I play it safe and keep it at 7?
Thanks,
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09-21-2017, 01:10 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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6 quarts is adequate for operation in all attitudes, and has always been my minimum level at takeoff. In my experience, and often reported, 7 or 8 quart level leads to venting overboard to a stable level at 6. Look to your engine manual for more info. I think you will find that minimum for takeoff is 4 quarts, just FYI -- not recommending.
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09-21-2017, 01:29 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
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Cold air sump?
Does a Superior cold air sump change anything concerning the quantity?
My guess is that due to its construction, the oil pan itself lost a bit of the volume (to take oil) compared to a standard oil pan.
Therefore the level of the oil, lets take 6 qts, is slightly higher and will be vented overboard.......
So what is the oil quantity if you use a superior cold air sump?
What do the guys do who already fly behind an IO-360 with superior cold air sump?
Mit Fliegergru
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09-21-2017, 01:33 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daida
Does a Superior cold air sump change anything concerning the quantity?
My guess is that due to its construction, the oil pan itself lost a bit of the volume (to take oil) compared to a standard oil pan.
Therefore the level of the oil, lets take 6 qts, is slightly higher and will be vented overboard.......
So what is the oil quantity if you use a superior cold air sump?
What do the guys do who already fly behind an IO-360 with superior cold air sump?
Mit Fliegergruß
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You'll likely need to re-calibrate your dipstick to the new sump but the amount should not change, if I recall.
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09-21-2017, 01:37 PM
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Join Date: May 2005
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re-calibration of the dipstick is necessary!
I am just curious about the quantity!
Mit Fliegergru
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09-21-2017, 01:48 PM
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5 qtz on the dip stick (in the sump), +/- 1 qt in the filter.
Any more and mine will just dump the extra.
When I change oil, I fill with 6 qtz with a new filter. It will always find its level on the dip stick right at or near 5.
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09-21-2017, 03:00 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daida
re-calibration of the dipstick is necessary!
I am just curious about the quantity!
Mit Fliegergru?
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An email to Superior asking if the capacity for my O360-A4M would remain at 8 qts received the following response:
"Yes, it remains at the same capacity"
I plan to do this upgrade in the next 6 months.
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09-21-2017, 03:20 PM
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for the 4 bangers I consider 6 "Full", and add when it drops below 4.
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09-21-2017, 05:47 PM
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Careful with the original dipstick for the IO-360-M1B. As the Lyc service bulletin about dipstick replacement intimates, the level marking below 6 Qt is incorrect. I have not changed mine yet but during an oil change after the SB, I filled one quart at a time and watched the dipstick. The 4 Qt mark is definitely in the wrong place and the area under the 6 Qt is not visually linear. Actual contained oil drops really quickly when the oil shows below 6 Qt.
As a result, I have gotten into the habit of keeping the level right at 6 Qt by adding 1/2 Qt when needed.
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09-21-2017, 05:58 PM
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A very respected sage who cashed quite a few paychecks from Lycoming Engines taught me that every engine has a 'happy spot' when it comes to oil level. The IO-360 I fly is around 5.5 qts. The O-320 I fly is around 4.75 qts. Anything more than those quantities on those particular airplanes ends up on the belly of the airplane. YMMV.
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