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09-12-2017, 05:38 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Canton, MI
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Max gross weight testing
In the process of writing up a detailed test plan in preparation of the first flight. I've based it off a couple other RV test plans I've come across. Towards the end of the test plan I have "max gross weight checks", which is where you load the plane down to it's maximum takeoff weight of 2,700 pounds and perform some basic flight maneuvers.
To get up to this weight I will need an additional 700 pounds of ballast on top of my fat a$$. I originally thought of getting a bunch of sand bags, but my father shared with me a horror story of someone else doing that. Apparently the bag broke open and the sand poured into the tail, which threw him so far out of balance that he lost control and crashed.
What's a good ballast material that won't cost a fortune, stay put inside the airplane, and not soil up the upholstery?
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Jack and Dave Groat, father and son
RV-10 N1861G
Build #41389, started Oct 2012
Current status: 1st Flight 11/10/17
50 hour oil change: 8/29/19
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09-12-2017, 05:48 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Tampa, FL
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I used 40# bags of mulch. Some have used bags of water softener salt pellets or cement. The idea was to use something that's easy to get and useful after the test flight. Whatever you use just insure you put down a drop cloth and you shouldn't have any issues if a bag springs a leak.
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RV-10 N728TT - Flying!
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09-12-2017, 05:51 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Central IL
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The issue is not sand, it's the containment method.
My 10-friend used sand, I will re-use his sand. Nothing wrong with that. Just take some tarp and sit the bags on it and wrap for protection then make sure you have it all strapped down. Just do what is necessary to avoid breakage and leakage.
I had rather have this than 50# cast iron weights 
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RV-7
Lord Kelvin:
“I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about,
and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you
cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge
is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind.”
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09-12-2017, 06:23 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Southern Michigan
Posts: 1,964
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I used 40# bags of water softener salt pellets. The bags are sealed well and very thick. I was then able to use the salt in my softener after I was done testing.
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Howell, MI
RV-10: #41686 Under Construction
RV-9A: #90949 Under Construction
RV-10: #40637 Completed/Sold 2016
Cozy MKIV:#656 Completed/Sold 2007
"Donor Exempt" but donated through Dec. 2020
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09-12-2017, 06:30 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cedar Park, TX
Posts: 264
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Quickcrete
I used 80# bags of Quickcrete, wrapped in plastic from Homey Depot. Figure they'll get used on some back yard project.
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RV7a - Flying
RV10 - Flying !
FFI Flight Lead - www.FalconFlight.aero
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09-12-2017, 06:31 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Hales Corners, WI
Posts: 981
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I used cases of bottled water. Figured if one broke it wouldn't be a big deal. Because of their bulk though, I calculated the cg of each case. Had them stacked in the rear baggage compartment, on the rear seat and even on the floor protruding up the sides of the front seat. Made sure they were secured well. I was able to get to max gross at max aft cg. Afterwards just kept the cases in the hanger to drink. Just about gone now, 3 years later. Beware, stick pressure feedback reverse is real!
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Jesse Bentley
N229Z - RV-8 - Flying - Livin' the dream!
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09-12-2017, 06:42 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Kingsville, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 282
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Lawn needed fertilizer so that's what I used. 40 lb bags on a drop cloth.
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Dennis Enns
Kingsville, ON
Bellanca Champ 7ACA since 1986, restored 1990.
RV-8 IO375, Hartzell CS, dual PMags.
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09-12-2017, 06:50 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: houston, texas
Posts: 900
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Me too
Cases of oil, 25lbs., 24 packs of soft drinks, 12 packs of soft drinks and ice tea 12 packs and so on. You can load what you want for the testing then stack it up next to the beer frig in the hangar or the house and use it tell it is gone.
Win-Win kind of thing and yes if you use oil it goes in the airplane, we hand 6 or 8 cases so we used them then put it back on the shelf for later.
Just what we did. Yours, R.E.A. III #80888
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09-12-2017, 07:12 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Central Alabama
Posts: 303
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Got a dog?
50lb bag of dog food
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Hwood 
N469SH / "Crazy Woman" (sold)
Working on Another -8
Exempt but paid
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09-12-2017, 07:46 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Okanagan Valley BC, Canada
Posts: 482
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Water containers... Whatever you own or can borrow...
The idea of putting something abrasive or corrosive in my new airplane did not appeal to me...
This was an RV-8 @ max gross & rearward C/G...

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Ron Townson
Okanagan Valley BC, Canada
RV-8 Completed Dec 2013
Membership renewed Sept 8, 2019
Last edited by Ron RV8 : 09-12-2017 at 07:50 AM.
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