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09-08-2017, 10:15 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
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Originally Posted by engineerorange
So is my passenger warning on the panel of my yet to be inspected airplane going to cause an issue with the inspector? I used the old wording.
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It should not cause an issue as long as the placard you have "includes" the required wording. The addition of "Amateur-Built" or "Light-Sport" wording should not be a problem. To be sure, you should talk with your inspector before the inspection.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
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Last edited by Mel : 09-08-2017 at 10:35 AM.
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09-08-2017, 10:31 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Landing field "12VA"
Posts: 1,529
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My placard has the old wording
... and I wouldn't change it, because if I did, the second placard beneath it wouldn't make sense.
"The Titanic was built by professionals; the Ark was built by amateurs."
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Bill Boyd
Hop-Along Aerodrome (12VA)
RV-6A - N30YD - Built '98 / sold '20
RV-10 - N130YD reserved - under construction
donating monthly to the VAF - thanks, Doug
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09-08-2017, 11:28 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Pocahontas MS
Posts: 3,884
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Quote:
Originally Posted by engineerorange
So is my passenger warning on the panel of my yet to be inspected airplane going to cause an issue with the inspector? I used the old wording.
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A valid question. I just paid for a couple of the old style labels; must I throw them away & buy again, to eliminate the extra words? Or should I just line through them with a sharpie?
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09-08-2017, 12:19 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Boston Area
Posts: 135
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Auburntsts
Mel I wasn't asking you why - I asking Tim why.
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I thought this was a retroactive change.
Tim
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09-08-2017, 01:04 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
Posts: 10,761
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Auburntsts
Mel I wasn't asking you why - I asking Tim why.
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Sorry, I misunderstood.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
<rvmel(at)icloud.com>
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09-08-2017, 01:43 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: US
Posts: 2,245
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mel
Just a "heads-up", as of September 21st, 2017, new ruling on the Passenger Warning;
Except for single place aircraft, the following placard must be displayed in the aircraft in full view of all occupants: ?PASSENGER WARNING?THIS AIRCRAFT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH FEDERAL SAFETY REGULATIONS FOR STANDARD AIRCRAFT.?
Note that Experimental, Light-Sport, or Amateur-Built is no longer required wording. This makes for a more "standardized" placard.
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What's the source for this?
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09-08-2017, 01:50 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 2,471
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RV7A Flyer
What's the source for this?
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FAA 8130.2J
Page 162 (D-14)
Cheers,
Stein
ed...fixed link
Note: don't copy bad links when you quote posts; it just repeats it un-necessarily.
Last edited by SteinAir : 09-08-2017 at 03:24 PM.
Reason: Fixed Link
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09-08-2017, 02:39 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Redlands, Ca.
Posts: 1,457
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Auburntsts
Why? All they did was drop the " IS AMATEUR-BUILT" from the current placard. I do hate it though as to me it implies that my aircraft is some how sub-standard.
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....Just add another sticker that says!
"This superior flying machine is
built far beyond those standards"
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Allan Nimmo
AntiSplatAero.com
Innovative Aircraft Safety
Products, Tools & ServicesInfo@AntiSplatAero.com Southern California (KREI)
RV-9A / Edge-540 
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09-08-2017, 10:17 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Omaha, NE (KMLE)
Posts: 2,246
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PerfTech
....Just add another sticker that says!
"This superior flying machine is
built far beyond those standards"
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I've seen similar wording a few times. While somewhat witty, and in many cases the build quality is better than factory, I'd really, really hate to have a plaintiff's attorney asking me or my surviving family members to explain the justification behind such a statement.
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Dale
Omaha, NE
RV-12 # 222 N980KM "Screamin' Canary" (bought flying)
Fisher Celebrity (under construction)
Previous RV-7 project (sold)
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09-09-2017, 06:10 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 2,690
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Boyd
... and I wouldn't change it, because if I did, the second placard beneath it wouldn't make sense.
"The Titanic was built by professionals; the Ark was built by amateurs."
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Seen a number of post placard quips. I like this one. 
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Bill Pendergrass
ME/AE '82
RV-7A: Flying since April 15, 2012. 850 hrs
YIO-360-M1B, mags, CS, GRT EX and WS H1s & A/P, Navworx
Unpainted, polished....kinda'... Eyeballin' vinyl really hard.
Yeah. The boss got a Silhouette Cameo 4 Xmas 2019.
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