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Old 08-30-2017, 05:34 PM
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So Van's is telling me... 12 Nose Fork Conversion ?subkit? $325.00 ?contents? WD-01230-1 ?fork? U-01210A-1 ?axle? Doc 12 Man Sect 35 Bag 2847.

Is that everything I need to swap out the old fork and still have the front wheel fairing mount up to the new fork?
Jim,

If you have nose wheel fairings installed, then also order the nose wheel fairing conversion kit. You will have to install new brackets on the forward nose wheel fairing. I am in the process of completing that conversion now.

http://vansaircraft.com/pdf/Notifica...2016-09-21.pdf

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Old 08-30-2017, 06:31 PM
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Tom -

I searched Van's part site for Nose Wheel Fairing Conversion Kit with no luck. Do you have PN?
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Old 08-30-2017, 06:38 PM
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Tom -

I searched Van's part site for Nose Wheel Fairing Conversion Kit with no luck. Do you have PN?
I have the parts list at the hangar. I'll get back to you with the kit p/n.
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Old 08-30-2017, 10:16 PM
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Default Notification 16-09-21

Guys, the part numbers are given in the notification.

http://vansaircraft.com/pdf/Notifica...2016-09-21.pdf
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Old 08-31-2017, 07:14 AM
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Guys, the part numbers are given in the notification.

http://vansaircraft.com/pdf/Notifica...2016-09-21.pdf
Whoops...there it was, 12 Nose Whl Fairing Conversion, last line on the notification! Thanks Tony!

BTW...My kit included the wrong rivets for the nut plates. I was sent AN470AD4-9 rivets instead of CCR-264SS-3-2 flush head pop rivets. Van's was notified.

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Old 08-31-2017, 08:14 AM
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Default Here's a picture of a failure

This one happened with about 700 hours (on the second fork - first one cracked too). I know the pilots and they are careful - though there will always be the occasional less than perfect landing. Our runway is a bit of a washboard too - it is finally getting fully repaved in October. The triggering action for this break was a slow taxi sharp turn. That was it. I was a pax in the plane at the time.

After this break they put on the beefed-up fork with no further problems.

This fork was inspected (but not with dye penetrant) just days before the failure. Warning: I made the picture HUGE so you could get a good look at the failuer point. There was a similar crack starting at the bottom left weld as well and it was very hard to detect.

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Old 08-31-2017, 08:23 AM
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Sure looks like a crack above the axle as well.
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Old 08-31-2017, 08:27 AM
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A couple things:
- For The nose fork wheel pant "upgrade" part number isn't available through the Van's web store, but if you call them, it's $20 and is essentially a couple new brackets and hardware.

- The dye penetrant kit will last for many uses, so don't get sticker shock at the initial price. I have a kit over 5 years old and still going; I believe the shelf life was something like 10 years.

- I agree that it's unreasonable to expect "all my landings are greasers". Thanks for posting photos of your cracks. I haven't flown mine yet, but based on this, I'm going to plan to swap out the fork at my first annual. I agree with others that the cost of ~$350 for both the fork and pant hardware is a good insurance policy.
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Old 08-31-2017, 08:28 AM
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This one happened with about 700 hours...
I noticed that the aluminum "grain" on that fork is vertical. Isn't aluminum supposed to be bent at 90 degrees to the grain? But what do I know, I'm a fiberglass guy
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Old 08-31-2017, 08:50 AM
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If you're going down the die pen road I would recommend removing any paint on the fork.
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