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Old 06-14-2017, 10:52 AM
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Default Neoprene Rubber Replacement (SJ cowl)

The neoprene is not holding up as well as I'd hoped on my SJ cowl. I've had to replace the intake tube after about 70 hours of flying and the tubes into the plenum are showing signs of degradation too.

Wondering what others have used that holds but better over time and is flexible enough for the purpose.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 06-14-2017, 03:09 PM
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My plenum transitions are doing fine but my engine air intake is showing definite signs of distress with 150 hours on it. I believe it's just wetsuit material but where to get it would be the question.
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Old 06-14-2017, 03:21 PM
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On my Sam James ram air intake I used marine exhaust water hose for the ram air to cowling connection such as this. https://www.fisheriessupply.com/trid...cean-flex-hose. You should be able to find it cheaper and it works great. I secure the hose using a hose clamp to the intake ring glued to the cowling. This hose overlaps the fiberglass ram air intake by about 1" and no clamp is needed on the ram air intake. This makes removing the cowling a snap.

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Old 06-14-2017, 03:22 PM
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I used silicone hose for the ram air intake.
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Old 06-14-2017, 04:02 PM
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My plenum transitions are doing fine but my engine air intake is showing definite signs of distress with 150 hours on it. I believe it's just wetsuit material but where to get it would be the question.
Thanks. Getting the same material is not a problem. I want something that will hold up better but still be flexible.
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Old 06-14-2017, 04:03 PM
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On my Sam James ram air intake I used marine exhaust water hose for the ram air to cowling connection such as this. https://www.fisheriessupply.com/trid...cean-flex-hose. You should be able to find it cheaper and it works great. I secure the hose using a hose clamp to the intake ring glued to the cowling. This hose overlaps the fiberglass ram air intake by about 1" and no clamp is needed on the ram air intake. This makes removing the cowling a snap.

Bill
Thanks! I will check this out.
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Old 06-14-2017, 04:04 PM
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I used silicone hose for the ram air intake.
Can you be more specific, Bret?
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Old 06-14-2017, 05:43 PM
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Thanks. Getting the same material is not a problem. I want something that will hold up better but still be flexible.
Make what you want. Hose material is too stiff.

These are at 675 hours now, still doing fine...a single ply of 9oz plain weave glass soaked in two-part urethane rubber, and wrapped over a form. Andy made some too.

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Old 06-14-2017, 07:48 PM
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Make what you want. Hose material is too stiff.

These are at 675 hours now, still doing fine...a single ply of 9oz plain weave glass soaked in two-part urethane rubber, and wrapped over a form. Andy made some too.

Dan that's awesome. Can you give any details of the rubber?
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:39 PM
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Dan that's awesome. Can you give any details of the rubber?
Scott,
I believe the rubber DanH used isn't made anymore, I've used a similar formulation from the same company "Smooth On" Urethane rubber "PMC 780 Dry" with excellent results.
https://www.smooth-on.com/products/pmc-780-dry/
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