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06-14-2017, 10:52 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Richmond Hill, GA (KLHW)
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Neoprene Rubber Replacement (SJ cowl)
The neoprene is not holding up as well as I'd hoped on my SJ cowl. I've had to replace the intake tube after about 70 hours of flying and the tubes into the plenum are showing signs of degradation too.
Wondering what others have used that holds but better over time and is flexible enough for the purpose.
Thanks in advance.
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RV-7A - Slider - N495KL - First flt 27 Jan 17
O-360-A4M w/ AFP FM-150 FI, Dual PMags, Vetterman Trombone Exh, SkyTech starter, BandC Alt (PP failed after 226 hrs)
Catto 3 blade NLE, FlightLines Interior, James cowl, plenum & intake, Anti-Splat -14 seat mod and nose gear support
All lines by TSFlightLines (aka Hoser)
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06-14-2017, 03:09 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Garden City, Tx
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My plenum transitions are doing fine but my engine air intake is showing definite signs of distress with 150 hours on it. I believe it's just wetsuit material but where to get it would be the question.
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N16GN flying 700 hrs and counting; IO360, SDS, WWRV200, Dynon HDX, 430W
Built an off-plan RV9A with too much fuel and too much HP. Should drop dead any minute now.
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06-14-2017, 03:21 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Tampa, Florida (KVDF)
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On my Sam James ram air intake I used marine exhaust water hose for the ram air to cowling connection such as this. https://www.fisheriessupply.com/trid...cean-flex-hose. You should be able to find it cheaper and it works great. I secure the hose using a hose clamp to the intake ring glued to the cowling. This hose overlaps the fiberglass ram air intake by about 1" and no clamp is needed on the ram air intake. This makes removing the cowling a snap.
Bill
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06-14-2017, 03:22 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Gardnerville Nv.
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I used silicone hose for the ram air intake.
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06-14-2017, 04:02 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Richmond Hill, GA (KLHW)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by airguy
My plenum transitions are doing fine but my engine air intake is showing definite signs of distress with 150 hours on it. I believe it's just wetsuit material but where to get it would be the question.
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Thanks. Getting the same material is not a problem. I want something that will hold up better but still be flexible.
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Ray
RV-7A - Slider - N495KL - First flt 27 Jan 17
O-360-A4M w/ AFP FM-150 FI, Dual PMags, Vetterman Trombone Exh, SkyTech starter, BandC Alt (PP failed after 226 hrs)
Catto 3 blade NLE, FlightLines Interior, James cowl, plenum & intake, Anti-Splat -14 seat mod and nose gear support
All lines by TSFlightLines (aka Hoser)
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06-14-2017, 04:03 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Richmond Hill, GA (KLHW)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by William
On my Sam James ram air intake I used marine exhaust water hose for the ram air to cowling connection such as this. https://www.fisheriessupply.com/trid...cean-flex-hose. You should be able to find it cheaper and it works great. I secure the hose using a hose clamp to the intake ring glued to the cowling. This hose overlaps the fiberglass ram air intake by about 1" and no clamp is needed on the ram air intake. This makes removing the cowling a snap.
Bill
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Thanks! I will check this out.
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Ray
RV-7A - Slider - N495KL - First flt 27 Jan 17
O-360-A4M w/ AFP FM-150 FI, Dual PMags, Vetterman Trombone Exh, SkyTech starter, BandC Alt (PP failed after 226 hrs)
Catto 3 blade NLE, FlightLines Interior, James cowl, plenum & intake, Anti-Splat -14 seat mod and nose gear support
All lines by TSFlightLines (aka Hoser)
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06-14-2017, 04:04 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Richmond Hill, GA (KLHW)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bret
I used silicone hose for the ram air intake.
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Can you be more specific, Bret?
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Ray
RV-7A - Slider - N495KL - First flt 27 Jan 17
O-360-A4M w/ AFP FM-150 FI, Dual PMags, Vetterman Trombone Exh, SkyTech starter, BandC Alt (PP failed after 226 hrs)
Catto 3 blade NLE, FlightLines Interior, James cowl, plenum & intake, Anti-Splat -14 seat mod and nose gear support
All lines by TSFlightLines (aka Hoser)
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06-14-2017, 05:43 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 08A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymo
Thanks. Getting the same material is not a problem. I want something that will hold up better but still be flexible.
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Make what you want. Hose material is too stiff.
These are at 675 hours now, still doing fine...a single ply of 9oz plain weave glass soaked in two-part urethane rubber, and wrapped over a form. Andy made some too.

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06-14-2017, 07:48 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Montreal
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanH
Make what you want. Hose material is too stiff.
These are at 675 hours now, still doing fine...a single ply of 9oz plain weave glass soaked in two-part urethane rubber, and wrapped over a form. Andy made some too.

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Dan that's awesome. Can you give any details of the rubber?
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Old school simple VFR RV 4, O-320, wood prop, MGL iEfis Lite
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06-14-2017, 11:39 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Ottawa, Ks
Posts: 2,188
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sblack
Dan that's awesome. Can you give any details of the rubber?
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Scott,
I believe the rubber DanH used isn't made anymore, I've used a similar formulation from the same company "Smooth On" Urethane rubber "PMC 780 Dry" with excellent results.
https://www.smooth-on.com/products/pmc-780-dry/
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