Cheap Complete Strobe System

RudiGreyling · #1 02-02-2007, 04:40 AM

Hi Guys,

I was looking for strobes for a while and got a very good special which I think is worthwhile to pass on. I bought mine yesterday. Use the info if you like..

The special is on at the moment: $160 for a 60Watt, 4 head upgradable to 6, multipattern, 5 Year Guarentee. Normal price is $240. It looks like the unit is manufactured by Nova, cause it has the same form factor, product ID numbering etc. The talk is Nova was started by ex Whelen employees, so it should be good. Nova Reference Site: www.strobe.com.

What I like is that at 60W. That is the same as the Nova AVIPAK designed specifically for Aviation, but at a much cheaper price. For AVIPAK Reference: http://www.strobe.com/products.asp?id=60&view=product normal Avipak price is $400 !!! that equates to a $240 saving!

Now I hope they ship mine, before all you okes in the USA grab all the stock!

Do you own homework and decide if it will work for you...
Here's the direct link for the special, it is hidden deep in the www . strobesnmore. com website:
http://strobeguy.safeshopper.com/90/2277.htm?248

Quote:

Strobes N' More Professional System 4
System includes:
1 - 60 Watt 6 Outlet Multipattern Strobe Power Supply
4 - 32 Watt Undercover Strobe Tubes
4 - 15 Foot Strobe Power Cables with connectors
2 - Power and Control Harnesses

Features:
*5 Year Warranty
*15 Flash Patterns
*2 Diagnostic Indicators, for trouble and normal operation at a glance.
*Simple 1 Wire Flash Pattern Control for easier wiring.
*Total output control allowing the maximum output available to installed strobe heads.

We will have these systems on sale for a limited time as an introductory special, so don't wait.

JohnR · #2 02-02-2007, 06:12 AM

Thanks Rudi! I actually had that set on my list as a possibility but had missed the sale. I just ordered a set myself.

jcoloccia · #3 02-02-2007, 07:01 AM

I e-mailed them about a month ago asking what, exactly, was different between the regular drivers and this super special aviation driver that makes the aviation one worth 2 or 3 times more (other than the fact it has an picture of an airplane on it). Their response: "The aviation driver was custom built to exacting specifications, blah blah blah, aviation, blah blah blah, airplane more money..."

There's also these guys:

www.gs-air.com

They also use "custom" Nova driver (the HR in the part number stand for Half Rate). Somehow, though, they manage to sell it at a reasonable price, not the ridiculous $300 that some peddle it for.

The one thing to watch out for is too high of a strobe rate. There's a spec for how fast the strobes must go and there's an upper limit.

jcmcdowell · #4 02-02-2007, 07:20 AM

Cheaper than what I was looking at by about $240...

Thanks...

DanH · #5 02-02-2007, 09:06 AM

John makes a good point about flash rate.

FAR 23.1401(c): Flashing characteristics. The arrangement of the system, that is, the number of light sources, beam width, speed of rotation, and other characteristics, must give an effective flash frequency of not less than 40, nor more than 100, cycles per minute. The effective flash frequency is the frequency at which the airplane's complete anticollision light system is observed from a distance, and applies to each sector of light including any overlaps that exist when the system consists of more than one light source. In overlaps, flash frequencies may exceed 100, but not 180, cycles per minute.

The NOVA Superpak606X, which seems to be the same as the Strobes 'n More Pro System 606, lists a flash rate of "4 flash bursts alternating, 140 quad flashes per minute" or 2 flash bursts alternating, 125 double flashes per minute".

The NOVA Avi-Pak lists 85 quad and 100 double flashes per minute.

At first glance it looks like the 606 systems have a flash rate that is too high, but perhaps not. Note the lines in 23.1401(c) regarding sectors, and then consider the 606 specification. Does "alternating" mean every bulb flashes 140 (or 125) times per minute, or that all bulbs together flash a total of 140 (or 125) times, each in turn? If they flash in turn, the 606 would be legal given that you can't see all three sectors (left,right,tail) at one time.

RV_7A · #6 02-02-2007, 11:05 AM

The X-Pak 604 is what I recommend for everyone using my LED Nav Lights.

http://strobeguy.safeshopper.com/11/1806.htm?248

-Jeff

DanH · #7 02-02-2007, 02:25 PM

Jeff,
<<The X-Pak 604 is what I recommend for everyone using my LED Nav Lights.>>

So what do you observe about it's flash rate? Does every bulb flash 140 times per minute in the quad flash mode or 125 times in double flash?

mdredmond · #8 02-02-2007, 02:50 PM

From their installation mannual:

# Flash Pattern Description
1 Quad Flash 4 Flash bursts alternating, 140 Quad Flashes Per Minute.
2 Quintuple Flash 5 Flash bursts alternating, 140 Quintuple Flashes Per Minute.
3 Mega Flash 1 Flash burst alternating, 700 Flashes Per Minute.
4 Double Flash 2 Flash bursts alternating, 125 Double Flashes Per Minute.
5 Single Flash 1 Flash burst alternating, 200 Single Flashes Per Minute.
6 Twin Single Flash Two Single Flash bursts before alternating. 120 Twin Single Flashes Per Minute.
7 Twin Double Flash Two Double Flash bursts before alternating. 100 Twin Single Flashes Per Minute.
8 Triple Flash 3 Flash bursts alternating, 140 Triple Flashes Per Minute.
9 Twin Triple Flash Two Triple Flash bursts before alternating. 70 Twin Triple Flashes Per Minute.
10 Twin Mega Flash Two Mega flash bursts before alternating. 350 Twin Mega! Flashes Per Minute
11 Triple-Mega-Bang Three Flashes alternating then one Single Flash. 76 Flashes Per Minute.
12 Warble 6 Single flashes alternating at 450 FPM, 6 single flashes alternating at 860 FPM.
13 Phased Mega Flash 1 Flash burst alternating, Flash rate varies from 360 FPM to 860 FPM
14 Single-Quad Single Flash - Quad Flash combination pattern.
15 Cycle Flash Two warble flashes, Two Quad Flashes, Two Mega Flashes in a continuous cycle.

RV_7A · #9 02-02-2007, 03:01 PM

Here is where I got my info and compared. The wording is a little different however they both seem to meet the criteria.

NOVA X-PAK 604 Data Sheet

EX-AVI-PAK

I did note the X-PAK 604 provides only low power double flash mode as compared to the EX-AVI-PAK which does high power in double flash mode.

-Jeff

RudiGreyling · #10 02-05-2007, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RV_7A

The X-Pak 604 is what I recommend for everyone using my LED Nav Lights.

http://strobeguy.safeshopper.com/11/1806.htm?248

-Jeff

Hi Jeff,
Ditto man, looks like the special is a new "606", at a good price, meaning place for 6 heads, it looks a little better than the 604, at a good price with the strobe heads.
Regards
Rudi