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04-04-2017, 04:06 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Olathe, KS
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Originally Posted by Aiki_Aviator
Hi Steve,
I have not as yet upgraded to the 6.21 as states that if you upgrade to 6.21 you MUST use the new "synchronize" process software. Is that correct?
If Not can you upgrade to 6.21, then 6.30 and still use the "manual" download processes?
Regards,
Andrew.
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Hello Andrew,
The database SYNC feature added in V6.21 supports transferring databases between Garmin displays, typically in a multiple GTN installation, to automatically synchronize the databases on these units.
We have a single GTN 750 in our RV-7A that I update, and I don't notice that this feature is even there because it does nothing in this installation.
Not sure why this is a concern. It is probably best to call or email us directly.
Thanks,
Steve
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04-04-2017, 07:07 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Chile, Valparaiso
Posts: 294
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Dear Steve i have upgraded two gtn650 in different aircraft and when we turn on we see:
FPL WAYPOINT LOCKED
Stored Flight Plan waypoint is not in current navigation database
The problem is that the two planes does not have FLP saved.
how can we clean these mssg?
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Valpara?so, Chile
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04-04-2017, 09:03 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Hastings, MN
Posts: 582
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HSANTIBANEZ
Dear Steve i have upgraded two gtn650 in different aircraft and when we turn on we see:
FPL WAYPOINT LOCKED
Stored Flight Plan waypoint is not in current navigation database
The problem is that the two planes does not have FLP saved.
how can we clean these mssg?
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I've seen this in two scenarios.
First, if the nav database is expired I get this message, as I would expect.
Second, if I've pushed a flight plan from the G3X that has a custom waypoint, or an airport that isn't in the official GTN database, I get this message.
When I'm flying IFR, I always create the flight plans on the GTN, as that's the supported IFR database.
And Garmin, how about an external keyboard for the GTN, or maybe a virtual GTN keyboard on the G3X Touch? I very much dislike the GTN650's "keyboard".
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Last edited by NovaBandit : 04-04-2017 at 09:08 AM.
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04-04-2017, 10:31 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Chile, Valparaiso
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i have both planes up to date databases
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Valpara?so, Chile
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06-20-2017, 10:47 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: London
Posts: 39
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Originally Posted by g3xpert
We have been doing some G3X Touch testing with the new GTN software flying autopilot coupled visual approaches on our test bench to get proficient - and to have a little fun.
It is really quick and easy to load/activate one of the visual approaches for an airport. In this example the tower gave us straight-in to RWY 36 and you can see what the flight plan looks like on the GDU 460 after activating on the GTN. The V3NM is a waypoint showing the initial fix 3 nm from the runway end on the Visual approach.
After activating the visual approach, we just pushed the NAV, APR (approach), and AP buttons on the GMC 307 to engage the autopilot laterally and arm for the glidepath (GP) capture. We are inbound at pattern altitude in ALT hold in this example. If we were hand flying and just wanted flight director guidance, we could have pushed the FD button instead of the AP button and left the servos disengaged.
In this image we are nearly to the runway and are centered both laterally and vertically on the visual approach. You wouldn't normally have the autopilot engaged at this point, but it was a test bench!
We can demonstrate flying these visual approaches on one of our kiosks at SNF next week if you get a chance to stop by.
Thanks,
Steve
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Hi Steve, this new feature is mostly welcome...you know I have been probably the most impatient among all Garmin clients on this feature! Three questions for you:
1) is this a software upgrade for the G3X, for the GTN or for both (I have one G3X Touch + one GTN750 in my RV7A)?
2) is there a way to fix the descent angle to a value different than 3 degrees (which I understand is the default value)?
3) can the guided descent be done to a user-defined waypoint (for example a private airstrip with a certain altitude and a certain GPS position) instead of a known airport?
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06-20-2017, 01:03 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Olathe, KS
Posts: 2,885
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Originally Posted by Mancival
Hi Steve, this new feature is mostly welcome...you know I have been probably the most impatient among all Garmin clients on this feature! Three questions for you:
1) is this a software upgrade for the G3X, for the GTN or for both (I have one G3X Touch + one GTN750 in my RV7A)?
2) is there a way to fix the descent angle to a value different than 3 degrees (which I understand is the default value)?
3) can the guided descent be done to a user-defined waypoint (for example a private airstrip with a certain altitude and a certain GPS position) instead of a known airport?
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Hello Mancival,
This is a software feature provided strictly by the GTN. No software changes were required in G3X Touch to support this since it works like any other approach you can load and activate on the GTN.
You even use the APR button on the autopilot control panel to arm for the glidepath capture if you wish to use the flight director to guide you to the runway (or couple to the visual approach with the autopilot). It flies very similar to an LPV approach with a vector-to-final transition.
To the best of our knowledge, the glide path angle is determined by the GTN and cannot be over-ridden.
This is not intended to be a roll-your-own-approach feature, rather it is a quick and easy way to use visual approach guidance to more easily fly consistent visual approaches.
This feature also provides excellent situational awareness, especially for unfamiliar airports, because you can activate a visual approach for the tower assigned runway upon initial contact, and have higher assurance you don't accidentally line up on the wrong runway.
Visual approaches are only available for airports in the GTN database. Some private airports have visual approaches, but not all. As you approach the destination airport, if it has one or more visual approaches available you just push the new Visual Approach button in the lower left corner of the GTN map page and select the runway you will be using. If there are no visual approaches for this airport, the button is not available.
When we were demonstrating this feature at SNF, we were pleasantly surprised how often visual approaches were provided for private airports that are used by customers who came by to take a look.
Thanks,
Steve
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06-20-2017, 03:28 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: London
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Do I need version 6.21 or 6.30 in the gtn to see the visual approaches? In the latter case, when version 6.30 will come out?
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06-20-2017, 05:12 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Olathe, KS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mancival
Do I need version 6.21 or 6.30 in the gtn to see the visual approaches? In the latter case, when version 6.30 will come out?
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Something newer than V6.21. No good date yet for the release. An issue was discovered in flight testing this release that required some software changes and re-certification, hence delays.
Lots of cranks to turn, so we won't have a date until we announce the availability of the service bulletin.
Thanks,
Steve
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10-06-2017, 01:44 PM
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: Los Angeles Coast
Posts: 65
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RELEASE DATE FOR VERSION 6.30 ???
Hello, still waiting for the release date for the version 6.30 update. Any updates on a release date yet? The last I heard was October.
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10-06-2017, 01:54 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Olathe, KS
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Originally Posted by BMW_X6M
Hello, still waiting for the release date for the version 6.30 update. Any updates on a release date yet? The last I heard was October.
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Hello,
GTN V6.41 software provides the Visual Approach feature (and more) and is available now for non-certified aircraft.
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...d.php?t=153964
Thanks,
Steve
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