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05-08-2005, 05:58 PM
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How many hosses??
Tell me, I was chatting with Thermos tonight and we got to talking about HP's.
HYPOTHETICALLY, If we had a IO-360 with Horiz. FI, angle valves, 9.5:1 CR and Electronic Ignition... how many horses would this produce?
Obviously, I would like to fall into the HP (201 HP or greater) column.
 CJ
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05-08-2005, 06:09 PM
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Bet it'd be at least a hunerdanfifty. But you'd really have to flog it a bit.
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05-08-2005, 06:30 PM
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Ahunnertanfitty? Ahunnertanfitty?
I bet allah-dat an DEN SUM!
Also, who logs HP column for their plane? What is your combination?
...Roberta??? Are you in this group?
Dan, You posted somewhere on your site a number like 210. Is that right? How did you arrive at that?
 CJ
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05-08-2005, 07:18 PM
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I'm not sure! Is this on Dan C's site? I know I did a W&B on his site. Anyway, I have an 0-360 A1A Lycoming with a Hartzell BA C/S prop on my 7A. Flies great at about 204 mph at 8000 msl. I set the throttle wide open at that altitude and 2400 rpm. Otherwise, I fly 24 sq'd. Just building this kit was experimental enough for me. I pretty much used Van's recommended engine and prop and used their FWF kit. Kept things very simple. No reinventing the wheel for this gal.
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05-08-2005, 07:28 PM
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Yah, Dan C., THE Dan!
Well, I am not trying to reinvent anything and I DO want to stay within parameters, but I am a max power kinda guy. I know Dan is too. I just want to touch the limits of what Van describes as safe. I know that these engines lose power at altitude, being normally aspirated and I want to maximize the experience.
Anyone with any dyno data?
 CJ
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05-08-2005, 08:16 PM
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Is this like auto racing?
We figured each sponsor sticker was worth at least 5hp. So, if you add, say, four stickers you could gain 20 hp easy! 
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05-08-2005, 10:23 PM
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More HP
Cap'n John,
Flying into the wind produces more horsepower due to ram air effect. Turning downwind causes a sudden loss of HP which is the root cause of the downwind-turn-screaming-death-stall outcome.
Why don't you call Lycon or some of the other custom engine builders and ask them what they can deliver?
John Siebold
Last edited by RV7ator : 05-09-2005 at 07:40 AM.
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05-08-2005, 11:09 PM
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Tsquare
One possible solution I have been explolring is Superior's turbo-normalized 180/200hp engine. A call to them last January revealed that it may be available for RV's around the Oshosh time frame. Don't know anything about price or whether or not there will be any adaptation for the RV's, but I'm keeping my eyes on the prospect.
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05-09-2005, 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RV7ator
Cap'n John,
Flying into the wind produces more horsepower due to ram air effect. Turning downwind causes a sudden loss of HP which is the root cause of the downwide-turn-screaming-death-stall outcome.
Why don't you call Lycon or some of the other custom engine builders and ask them what they can deliver?
John Siebold
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John, Yes... I am hoping Mahlon (Mattituck) will jump in on this one too.
I don't want the cost (or the "newness" if you will) of the Superior 390 jugs either.
Anyone else?
 CJ
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05-09-2005, 04:47 PM
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How many?
Quote:
HYPOTHETICALLY, If we had a IO-360 with Horiz. FI, angle valves, 9.5:1 CR and Electronic Ignition... how many horses would this produce?
Obviously, I would like to fall into the HP (201 HP or greater) column.
CJ
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CJ,
I was poking around on some of the engine websites (Mattituck, Lycon, Superior, etc.) over the weekend, looking for similar answers. The numbers I found said to add between 5 and 10 ponies for the 9.5:1 cans over the 8.5:1's, 10-15 for the 10:1 cans. How much of that is hype? Your guess is as good as mine.
I hope Mahlon responds, too. The depth of his knowlege impresses the heck out of me. The more I look, read and hear about which engine I should (or could) use, the more I find myself leaning to just calling Mahlon when the time comes.
Best,
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