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12-22-2016, 06:01 PM
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WAAS ANTENNA SPLITTER
I have a GNS430 non WAAS and will be installing a Garmin G5 that requires a WAAS ant. and a ADS-B that requires a WAAS ant. Is there a splitter that is made that will work for this if I change out my GNS430's antenna and use a WAAS antenna so I don't have all these antennas sticking out?
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12-22-2016, 06:18 PM
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Short answer is no. Any splitting reduces the signal, and it's already tiny. Also, some boxes/antennas have a preamp in the antenna, so you have D.C. power running up the coax. Best not to mix.
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12-22-2016, 07:16 PM
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You cannot share an antenna, but the G430 can output a position source to both other items via RS232. Also, the G5 has a built-in antenna that is usually adequate.
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12-22-2016, 09:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BobTurner
Short answer is no. Any splitting reduces the signal, and it's already tiny. Also, some boxes/antennas have a preamp in the antenna, so you have D.C. power running up the coax. Best not to mix.
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EXACTLY! Besides, do you really want to risk damaging your $$$ G430 unit? 
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12-23-2016, 04:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BobTurner
Short answer is no. Any splitting reduces the signal, and it's already tiny. Also, some boxes/antennas have a preamp in the antenna, so you have D.C. power running up the coax. Best not to mix.
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Especially if you are using the navigator for IFR. Even though we're E-AB, for IFR I'd recommend following the Garmin installation instructions regarding anything dealing with antennas to the letter. YMMV....
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12-24-2017, 10:38 AM
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Not only is it possible, it is trivially simple. Especially so if you have an "active" gps antenna, one that has 25-30 dB of gain to overcome the loss of the coax going from the antenna to the GPS.
What is another 3 dB (a perfect power split) with a simple Wilkinson coupler?
Watch this thread. I'm working on one right now. So far the least expensive splitter I've found is north of $200. If I can't do it for less than $73 I won't bother taking your time.
Of course, as with all RST Engineering stuff it will be a kit that you have to assemble yourself, but it will probably be half a dozen solder joints at the max.
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12-24-2017, 04:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jweir43
What is another 3 dB (a perfect power split) with a simple Wilkinson coupler?
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Because 3db is a 50% reduction in power. Not trivial when the total available power at earth level is around 100 attowats.
That many GPS receivers will work at even much lower levels is a given, but I am not risking my life flying actual IMC with a GPS receiving 50% of what it should be getting. I justify spending that extra $$$ the same way I justify spending $$$ on insurance. Rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. YMMV

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12-24-2017, 04:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jweir43
Not only is it possible, it is trivially simple. Especially so if you have an "active" gps antenna, one that has 25-30 dB of gain to overcome the loss of the coax going from the antenna to the GPS.
What is another 3 dB (a perfect power split) with a simple Wilkinson coupler?
Watch this thread. I'm working on one right now. So far the least expensive splitter I've found is north of $200. If I can't do it for less than $73 I won't bother taking your time.
Of course, as with all RST Engineering stuff it will be a kit that you have to assemble yourself, but it will probably be half a dozen solder joints at the max.
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12-24-2017, 04:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse
You cannot share an antenna, but the G430 can output a position source to both other items via RS232. Also, the G5 has a built-in antenna that is usually adequate.
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Since he said the 430 is non-WAAS, I think it cannot serve as an adsb position source.
I?m going to reverse myself. Since the 430 installation instructions call for a certain minimum and maximum cable loss, I think a splitter is okay as long as you stay within the specs, AND make sure the dc power gets to the antenna okay and does not cause problems with other receivers.
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