Van's RV-15 (Next thing coming?)

[joe gremlin]

Originally Posted by jjbardell

They'd have to up the VNE too to make that a viable solution. The S19 is a great platform, but anything that big on it would be economy cruise at VNE. I'd consider an S19 with an O-320-IO-340. I looked online and couldn't find anything on this. Any links available?

Fuel capacity will be an issue as well. Strapping a 150-180 hp motor on a platform that only holds 24 gallons doesn't seem like the best idea. And increasing fuel capacity would take some pretty significant redesign of the wing and/or fuel system.

[vlittle]

Originally Posted by jjbardell

They'd have to up the VNE too to make that a viable solution. The S19 is a great platform, but anything that big on it would be economy cruise at VNE. I'd consider an S19 with an O-320-IO-340. I looked online and couldn't find anything on this. Any links available?

Unwilling to cross-link to promote a competitor. Here’s the quote:

From the Oracle Himself:

“We invested deeply into the 19 program. 4.5 years developing the design, testing and so on. What we ended up with was a plane that many who have built RV's claimed is easier to build with better manuals. That was 2008. The plane has had almost zero AD's, and has been the most trouble free program to date. We have plans to add some spice when and what that actually entails is still being debated. One obvious offering may be the Titian install kit, since the S-19 and S-21 share the same firewall, and the S-19 would balance out nicely with this engine. One customers is flying a 360 on a 19,and it is really impressive! We invested deeply into the 19 program. 4.5 years developing the design, testing and so on. What we ended up with was a plane that many who have built RV's claimed is easier to build with better manuals. That was 2008. The plane has had almost zero AD's, and has been the most trouble free program to date. We have plans to add some spice when and what that actually entails is still being debated. One obvious offering may be the Titian install kit, since the S-19 and S-21 share the same firewall, and the S-19 would balance out nicely with this engine. One customers is flying a 360 on a 19,and it is really impressive!”

QED

[joe gremlin]

Originally Posted by vlittle

Unwilling to cross-link to promote a competitor. Here’s the quote:

From the Oracle Himself:

“We invested deeply into the 19 program. 4.5 years developing the design, testing and so on. What we ended up with was a plane that many who have built RV's claimed is easier to build with better manuals. That was 2008. The plane has had almost zero AD's, and has been the most trouble free program to date. We have plans to add some spice when and what that actually entails is still being debated. One obvious offering may be the Titian install kit, since the S-19 and S-21 share the same firewall, and the S-19 would balance out nicely with this engine. One customers is flying a 360 on a 19,and it is really impressive! We invested deeply into the 19 program. 4.5 years developing the design, testing and so on. What we ended up with was a plane that many who have built RV's claimed is easier to build with better manuals. That was 2008. The plane has had almost zero AD's, and has been the most trouble free program to date. We have plans to add some spice when and what that actually entails is still being debated. One obvious offering may be the Titian install kit, since the S-19 and S-21 share the same firewall, and the S-19 would balance out nicely with this engine. One customers is flying a 360 on a 19,and it is really impressive!”

QED

I'll be curious to see it if it ever happens. But I won't hold my breath. From what I can tell, if you're not looking to pretend to be a bush pilot in an S21, they aren't all that interested in talking to you these days.

[PilotjohnS]

When Vans comes out with their version, they wont know what hit them. 40 gals, o235 to io360, 2 seats, high wing, 200 kt cruise, 25 kt stall speed, lands and takes off in under 100 feet, builds in 500 hours ( slow build). Cost less than 100k with engine.

[rocketman1988]

Originally Posted by PilotjohnS

When Vans comes out with their version, they wont know what hit them. 40 gals, o235 to io360, 2 seats, high wing, 200 kt cruise, 25 kt stall speed, lands and takes off in under 100 feet, builds in 500 hours ( slow build). Cost less than 100k with engine.

Now that's funny...

It will be made of Unobtainium...

[croner15]

Whatever it is, any guesses on when the -15 comes out? Perhaps 2023 when the FAA MOSAIC package is expected?

[Peter Costick]

Originally Posted by PilotjohnS

The trouble with electrics is the takeoff weight is the same as the landing weight. Let that sink in a little bit and you will discover what it really means.

I thought about this and it occurred to me that, with regard to training aircraft doing circuits for example, many tens of thousands of take offs and landings are performed with little change in the weight of the aircraft.

So what issue would this actually cause for appropriately designed GA type aircraft?

[ZombieNation]

Originally Posted by croner15

Whatever it is, any guesses on when the -15 comes out? Perhaps 2023 when the FAA MOSAIC package is expected?

Considering the success of the RV-12 (coincidentally using a Rotax 912) I think the -15 would pair nicely with a Rotax 915. Perhaps Vans could do a slight airframe update to the 9/9A, make it with more pulled rivets and final sized holes, and upgraded to the 10/14 front gear. I for one find the -12 might not be enough for my mission, but don't have the budget for the -14. Pilots lucky enough to live in the mountains might really enjoy the turbo engine too.

Depending on MOSAIC rules the -15 with a 915 might fit really well in there.

[Mike S]

Matt, welcome aboard the good ship VAF

[wilddog]

A kit to mod an -8 to fastback with a sliding canopy would be nice.