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08-04-2020, 11:30 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 46
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How about a 9 - 9A kitted like the 12 and assembled with blind rivets. O320 and fp prop.... same panel as the 12. You could build this for the same price of a 12.
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Then I'd be making space in the garage. From this thread, it seems like there is a market for something that takes the build simplicity of the 12 beyond the constraints of the LSA (or to their new limits if ever they are updated).
I think that would leave Vans with a pretty nice portfolio in the 12, 15, 14, and 10 that stay true to their roots, but open the doors for more buyers/builders. Like others, I also fear they'll just double down on the upper end of the market. |
08-04-2020, 11:44 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Clearwater, FL KCLW
Posts: 1,281
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Originally Posted by croner15
Like others, I also fear they'll just double down on the upper end of the market.
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With Epic leaving the kit market, maybe there's room for a new experimental turboprop? Could never afford one, but I'd love to dream about it.
Chris
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RV-9A - Done(ish) 4/5/16! Flying 4/7/16
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08-04-2020, 12:15 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 46
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Originally Posted by hecilopter
I want electric! Something 2 seater, 150kts, 3 hour endurance, 30 min recharge time.
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I bet Vans will let others try and fail in this space for a few years. Some incredible things could happen if Mr. Musk's batteries eventually flew in a Vans airframe. Give it a decade or so. |
08-04-2020, 12:32 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Sunman, IN
Posts: 2,186
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electric
I saw an article about a 150KW electric motor made by Yamaha...that's around 200hp...just sayin'...
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Aerospace Engineer '88
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Structure - 90% Done
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08-04-2020, 01:53 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Southwest
Posts: 1,108
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Trouble with Electrics
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Originally Posted by rocketman1988
I saw an article about a 150KW electric motor made by Yamaha...that's around 200hp...just sayin'...
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The trouble with electrics is the takeoff weight is the same as the landing weight. Let that sink in a little bit and you will discover what it really means.
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08-04-2020, 02:13 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 15,408
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Originally Posted by PilotjohnS
The trouble with electrics is the takeoff weight is the same as the landing weight. Let that sink in a little bit and you will discover what it really means.
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True, but at least you do not have the C/G going out the aft end of the envelope 
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Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010 
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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08-04-2020, 02:54 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 134
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Originally Posted by PilotjohnS
After seeing Paul Dye’s beautiful jet, it seems a 2 place jet will be really impractical. The range will seem to be the limiting characteristic. I cant see a 2 place net have greater than 250 mile range.
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250 mile range for a 2 place jet? Seems low to me. This one has two seats and a 3,450 mile range.
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08-04-2020, 03:02 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 139
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Originally Posted by AlpineYoda
250 mile range for a 2 place jet? Seems low to me. This one has two seats and a 3,450 mile range.
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When chasing the tanker!
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08-06-2020, 03:02 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southwest Michigan
Posts: 180
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Originally Posted by vlittle
Better hurry. Rans is putting an IO340 on their S19.
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They are? With all the effort they're putting into the S21 it seems like they've all but forgotten about the S19.
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RV-12 Empennage
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08-06-2020, 03:07 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 195
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Originally Posted by joe gremlin
They are? With all the effort they're putting into the S21 it seems like they've all but forgotten about the S19.
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They'd have to up the VNE too to make that a viable solution. The S19 is a great platform, but anything that big on it would be economy cruise at VNE. I'd consider an S19 with an O-320-IO-340. I looked online and couldn't find anything on this. Any links available?
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