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01-16-2007, 04:14 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Question for Lyclone engine gurus about rain
I have always wondered this... so I guess I will ask. I have a Superior O-360 carbureted on my -7A with the scoop on the bottom of the cowl.
If I am flying along in the rain (which I rarely do), where does all the water go that gets ingested into the scoop on the bottom of the cowl at 200 mph?
Does it mix with air and go into the engine? surely not........
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N357RV RV-7A Tip Up (flying and Painted!) - 1560+ hrs.
Superior XP-360, carbureted, Hartzell 74" Blended Airfoil Prop
Grand Prairie, TX
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01-16-2007, 04:15 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Fairbanks, Alaska
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HHHmmmmmmmmmm??? Hopefully absorbed in the air filter.
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01-16-2007, 04:24 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Round Rock, TX
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Yep it gets ingested into the engine and burns just fine.
-Jeff
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01-16-2007, 04:49 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Beaver, OK
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Cheap Water Injection
Just like water injection on the RENO racers or High horsepower warbirds with high boost, only without the alcohol injection added. I've installed water injection systems to prevent detonation on high compression race engines and flying in the rain is no where close to the amount of water that can actually be injected with a pump and nozzles. It will actually help to clean carbon from your piston tops if you don't over do it which will probably never happen not unless your in a downpour where the visibility is ZERO IFR at 5" a minute of rain +++++,,,,  . Just make sure your oil temps are up on the high side to boil off the excess moisture in the crankcase. Something I have done on my airbox before the filter is a drain hole at the lowest point,,, mostly for draining water why sitting on the ground and not flying. I'd worry more about the paint peeling off the wings at 200mph in heavy rain if the paint adhesion is not good. 
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Alan (AJ) Judy
Beaver, OK in NO MANS LAND
RV-6 IO360A1B6 C/S Hartz 200HP ?
Also Fly North American NAVIONs
Race car engine builder/Machinist/Fabricator 1982--present.
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01-16-2007, 04:55 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: East Troy, WI
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Don't know where it goes for sure, but I have flown in the rain with my snorkle equiped 0-360. The engine ran fine and the paint stayed on. I think the prop slaps the water away and it doesn't get in  .
Roberta 
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Built/Flew an RV-7A
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Ford Expedition and TRICE "Q"
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01-16-2007, 04:59 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Wow
I would not have thought you could inject water into the cylinders and still support combustion, but I guess you can. I wonder at what fuel/air/water ratio it would need to get to so that it would NOT support combustion (extinguish the engine)?
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Rusty "Rooster" Williams
N357RV RV-7A Tip Up (flying and Painted!) - 1560+ hrs.
Superior XP-360, carbureted, Hartzell 74" Blended Airfoil Prop
Grand Prairie, TX
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01-16-2007, 05:20 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Huskerland, USA
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Originally Posted by robertahegy
I think the prop slaps the water away and it doesn't get in  .Roberta 
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I think you have something there! 
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01-16-2007, 07:32 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Beaver, OK
Posts: 447
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Water does not make Horsepower.....
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Originally Posted by hecilopter
I would not have thought you could inject water into the cylinders and still support combustion, but I guess you can. I wonder at what fuel/air/water ratio it would need to get to so that it would NOT support combustion (extinguish the engine)?
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Water injection does not make horsepower, it will only help to prevent or surpress detonation in high compression engines or extreme conditions, to much ignition timing, low octane fuel, etc..... Hince, saving the pistons/rings/brgs, crank,,,,etc. from damage,,,, Race stuff only! Don't need to worry about it unless your running to the max in race conditions under the extreme conditions with turbos, high boost, very high compression. WATER INJECTION DOES NOT MAKE HP,,, IT SAVES PARTS FROM Departing the engine.
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Alan (AJ) Judy
Beaver, OK in NO MANS LAND
RV-6 IO360A1B6 C/S Hartz 200HP ?
Also Fly North American NAVIONs
Race car engine builder/Machinist/Fabricator 1982--present.
Last edited by rv969wf : 01-16-2007 at 11:29 PM.
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01-16-2007, 09:04 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Pasadena CA
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The vaporizing water helps absorb the heat and dump it overboard with exhaust right?
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