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Old 10-20-2016, 08:59 AM
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Default When do you NOT use flaps landing?

I?m not sure what forum to put this under so maybe an administrator could help me out here.

I have about 100 hours in my RV-9 and so I don?t consider myself experienced at all, hence the question. In what condition do you not use full flaps on landing and what do you reduce your flap setting to?

How does the model effect the answer (RV-7, RV-8, RV-9, etc.)? How about tricycle vs. tailwheel and three point vs. wheel landing?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-20-2016, 09:05 AM
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the only time I do NOT use flaps in my 9A is when the flap motor doesn't work.

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Old 10-20-2016, 09:09 AM
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Default Flaps

Can't remember the last time I landed my 6A with flaps up.
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Old 10-20-2016, 09:15 AM
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Just when I am practicing no flap landings.
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Old 10-20-2016, 09:19 AM
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90% of my landings and T&Gs are flapless.
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Old 10-20-2016, 09:28 AM
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When to use NO FLAPS? Large gust delta on a high windy day. It all depends on the gust factor for the winds. On a windy day I may not use all of the flaps but will partially deploy them, I maybe will use 10 or 20 deg.

There have been some heavy gusty days where I have NOT used any flaps. In fact, I just did this last week. Oh man, wait a minute. That wasn't last week. It was just this past Monday. Well, anyway on that day landed on 17/36 runway with winds 220 26GUST39! This was indeed a NO FLAP landing!

It is good to practice NO FLAP landings just so you know the site picture and performance of your plane when the time comes that you may need to use that tool.
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Old 10-20-2016, 09:29 AM
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I don't use flaps in gusty conditions.

Half my practice wheelie landings are flaps up.
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Old 10-20-2016, 09:30 AM
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...We always use flaps unless practicing for flap failure, or landing in 25 kt or higher crosswinds. They shorten landings, reduce landing speeds, and save brakes. On take off it shortens the takeoff roll and climbs better. Thanks, Allan..
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Old 10-20-2016, 09:33 AM
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Just when I am practicing no flap landings.
Same here.
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Old 10-20-2016, 09:40 AM
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Default Better nosewheel control

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90% of my landings and T&Gs are flapless.
+1

I am much better able to hold to nose wheel off with no flaps, and the plane lands slow and short enough without flaps. Add flaps to land really short when required.

YMMV
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